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Ballpark salary, HOD?

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StrongerThanIThought76 Wed 29-Mar-17 21:50:20

Hi all.

I work in a school, non-teaching position so can't figure out payscales etc for teaching staff. Have looked on various websites but struggling with abbreviations - TLR etc?

Looking for average-ish salary for HOD in a private secondary if any of you have any figures?

For someone who has been teaching say 10 years, occasional evening and weekend duties as part of expected role?

Thanks

teacher54321 Thu 30-Mar-17 06:18:27

How long is a piece of string really! Small private schools often have lower pay scales than the state sector, but may have other benefits such as fee reduction for staff kids, free lunches, subsidised accomodation, longer holidays etc. IME I'd say between 40-50k

RememberToSmile1980 Thu 30-Mar-17 06:23:17

Depends on the subject. Core subjects leaders/HODs get paid higher TLR's. However you are asking about private secondary so it will be different. I agree that it will be approx 40-50K,but you will get discounts on fees and paid extra for after-school clubs as well.

80sMum Thu 30-Mar-17 06:32:37

Private schools tend to have a shorter school year but a much longer school day (some finishing around 5.30 or even later) and more after-school activities, frequent parents meetings, Saturday school etc. IME there is no extra pay for any of the extra hours, it's all considered part of the job.

It really is a 'how long is a piece of string' question. Sorry OP. Some state schools pay HODs at the lower end of the TLR range (2a-ish) - probably the smaller school and non-core subjects; others have their HODs on the leadership spine.

Is it a job you're applying for? Your best bet might be to look on the TES website at similar jobs (you'll be better placed than us to know what is similar) and then compare the salaries.

BlessYourCottonSocks Fri 31-Mar-17 00:02:05

TLR means Teaching and Learning Responsibility and generally you would expect a HoD in an average State school to be on TLR 2a which was, I think, £2,613 last year. 2b was £4,359. And that generally comes down to how many staff you are managing in your dept. 10 years teaching probably leaves you on MPS6, unless you've gone through threshold which is difficult generally nowadays, and certainly not automatic. So...£33,160 unless in London. Altogether my best guess would be around £36,000, but agree with others it may be just over £40,000. Can't see how it would be close on £50,000 tbh. I'm UPS3 and adding a HoD TLR (which I've done in the past) still leaves me on just over 40 grand. You'd need to be responsible for significant numbers of staff/responsibility to get up to £50,000 I think. Maybe Assistant Head role, but I can't see an ordinary HoD being there. I'm willing to be told I'm wrong - my experience of schools over 25 years suggests otherwise, but I've never worked in a school with, say, 1800 pupils. Current school has around 800.

GHGN Fri 31-Mar-17 06:31:42

It really depends on the subject, the type and size of the school.
In the state school,1500 pupils, I have been working at, HoD for a core subject or HoF managing 3/4 small departments is around 46k for someone who has been teaching 10 years. HoD of a small department is 5k less.
Last year I was offer 53k to manage a Maths dept in an average independent. That was the first offer. I don't know if I started negotiating, how much higher I could have pushed it smile
A top London independent day school can be around 55-65k, maybe more. Have a search on the GDST or Highgate school, they normally publish their pay scale for normal teachers. If I remember correctly, one of those go up to 53k for normal teachers smile

Shadowboy Fri 31-Mar-17 07:29:38

Ok so 10 years experience puts them on UPS so Approx £38,000 then a TLR of 2b £4300 will give them an approx salary of £42,300. Some smaller departments may have a TLR of 2a £2600 but I've seen large Ones of £6000. I'm UPS with 10 years experience so can give you a reasonable approximation

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