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OneOfTheGrundys Sat 21-Jan-17 17:51:49

Why is it that, in my head , good behaviour management is something that I just 'did' as a teacher?

Why isn't it something that I think about when I'm offered CPD?

We're all being offered CPD for it at work at the moment and it just struck me that apart from reading Bill Rogers as a BT/NQT I've not even contemplated asking for it for training. Despite teaching challenging children.

My behaviour management is ok-nothing special. And yet I never thought of asking for training before now.

Why do I perceive it as different to maintaining other, subject specific skills through training?

Anyone else the same?

OneOfTheGrundys Sat 21-Jan-17 17:53:54

And can I just emphasise I'm not saying I'm brilliant at behaviour management.

Just that I never perceived it as something I'd ask for CPD on.

DandelionAndBedrock Sat 21-Jan-17 18:05:24

I suppose it is a little bit different because it feels more personal? So it is YOUR behaviour management, whereas when you teach you are teaching (for want of a better phrase) generic ideas, even if it is with your opinion. This may be more of a primary thing, but I find I need different strategies with different classes. So CPD might help with one group of children but not others - so my best ideas are 'borrowed' from their previous teacher, and then adapted if needed.

OneOfTheGrundys Sat 21-Jan-17 18:07:43

You're right, it's very personal.

Don't get me wrong, I'm up for the training but it just struck me that having taught for 14 years it wasn't something I'd ever revisited. Wrongly probably!

TheTroubleWithAngels Sat 21-Jan-17 19:12:08

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JenniferYellowHat1980 Sun 22-Jan-17 20:58:36

I have never attended a behaviour CPD session which has changed my practice. I have only ever sat there thinking 'you wouldn't last five minutes, you arsehole'.

Same. 'Display a timer on the board.' What? You think that's going to change refusal to even have a go at anything remotely challenging? 'Insist on quiet.' Tried that. Wasted most of the lesson.

Figure17a Sun 22-Jan-17 21:04:54

I'm not a teacher but I've worked in lots of different schools. It seems to me that where the behaviour policy of the school is consistently applied by all staff, from dinner ladies to the head, you get good behaviour. When it's not, you don't. Individual teachers don't seem to have much bearing, beyond using the techniques/sanctions/rules set out in the policy, some any training would grave to involve the whole school. Is that fair?

TheTroubleWithAngels Sun 22-Jan-17 22:15:36

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Figure17a Sun 22-Jan-17 22:22:36

Sorry, I realise this wasn't the point of the thread, but I am genuinely interested in this, having seen the differences in apparently similar schools - I completely get that a lot if problems start in the home. One school I worked in a socially deprived area had a change of head a couple of years ago. Behaviour there was awful when he arrived but he has managed to turn it around completely. Same families and mostly the same teachers (who now feel their efforts to manage behaviour are supported by leadership)

Figure17a Sun 22-Jan-17 22:24:16

The change in the children and the atmosphere when you walk into the school is palpable.

TheTroubleWithAngels Sun 22-Jan-17 22:34:01

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HopeClearwater Wed 01-Feb-17 21:24:56

Just that I never perceived it as something I'd ask for CPD on

Hahahaha
All of the external behaviour support people I've ever met while teaching have been useless.

I have never attended a behaviour CPD session which has changed my practice. I have only ever sat there thinking 'you wouldn't last five minutes, you arsehole'.

In my first ever INSET day I watched a group of professional actors pretend to be naughty kids while experienced colleagues tried to 'manage their behaviour'. I'm not sure I've ever cringed so much in my life.

SarfEast1cated Fri 03-Feb-17 07:35:31

I am on a placement in a challenging class and it's pretty awful. Worst offenders come from terrible home environments but their antics ruin the experience of their class. It's really sad for everyone and I really worry for them at senior school . I have been looking for behaviour advice online - any recommendations?

OneOfTheGrundys Fri 03-Feb-17 20:03:54

Perhaps that's why I never Hope !

www.amazon.com/Cracking-Hard-Class-Bill-Rogers/dp/1412923565?tag=mumsnetforum-21

This has been highly recommended by my PRU HT. It's Bill Rogers again tho. He has done some TED stuff too if you google it.

OneOfTheGrundys Fri 03-Feb-17 20:04:30

Sorry the last bit was for Sarf .

SarfEast1cated Fri 03-Feb-17 20:26:25

Thank you OOTGrundys I have seen some of his clips on Youtube, but will search him out on TED. Thanks!

OneOfTheGrundys Sat 04-Feb-17 16:20:54

Sorry, link was for .com not .co.uk but it's all the same iykwim.

All the best for the placement!

Merlin40 Sat 04-Feb-17 16:29:54

www.bloomsbury.com/uk/why-are-you-shouting-at-us-9781441185150/ sarf- this is worth reading too

SarfEast1cated Sat 04-Feb-17 18:38:15

Thank you Merlin I've bought that from Amazon, I'm hoping it helps!

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