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letseatgrandma Tue 12-May-15 09:55:15

Schools around here are really going to struggle next year. Loads of TAs have been got rid of at the next primary to us and we are not replacing 4 who are leaving/retiring at the end of the year.

Our school has no money for pencils, paint, photocopying, books or glue. PPA is being covered by doubling up classes or bunging a TA in there and justletting the children do golden time. It's so depressing.

The cynic in me wonders if turning all the LEA schools into academies and only opening free schools is paving the way to change the working conditions and the 1265 hours and have teachers working 8-6 to solve all the childcare dilemmas. Tell me I'm being dramatic and this is unlikely!!

As if we were't all miserable enough as it is!?

TheTroubleWithAngels Tue 12-May-15 17:56:33

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Mostlyjustaluker Tue 12-May-15 18:00:02

We have had four rounds of redundancies in 3 years. Apparently our books may just balance next year if we ignore the million+debt we have to pay off at some point.

DrElizabethPlimpton Tue 12-May-15 18:07:23

It's grim. I'm a governor at a special needs school and it is horrific. We don't have any contingency at all, so if anything needs replacing/repairing, I don't know how it is going to happen. It makes me so cross. These children are the most vulnerable, and their education and care is being eroded.
A society should be judged on how it cares for its weakest members.

Redlocks28 Tue 12-May-15 20:37:19

I've just heard that my friend-who is an assistant head-is having to go back into the classroom in September due to budget cuts. She hasn't taught a class for nearly 5 years!

I think reducing the massive amount of non-teaching SMT in some school is actually a really good thing-there are far too many whose sole job is to observe teachers but seem to do very little of use themselves.

What I don't want to see is TAs being cut left, right and centre but lots of non-teaching SMT roles remaining.

FuzzyWizard Tue 12-May-15 20:48:43

Ours is going to be very very tight next year. Staff who are leaving will potentially not be replaced and subject leaders are being warned to lower their expectations in terms of resources etc.

Metaphors Tue 12-May-15 21:03:06

We're still feeling quite comfortable on the back of a big improvement in our Ofsted rating leading to an increase in numbers (now full for the first time in history) and trigger funding. Plus 40% FSM means we do well out of pupil premium.

It's all being spent on staff, LSA numbers reducing as their contracts come to an end and intervention groups and PPA cover being done by actual teachers shock We have 3 teachers plus the deputy head not class based (12 form junior school) Sounds fantastic and is while it lasts but it's not sustainable and I worry what will happen in 2 years' time.

Philoslothy Tue 12-May-15 21:05:40

I am ńot working at the moment but from what I hear, budgets are slashed, staff not being replaced, classes going bigger and support being decreased.

leccybill Tue 12-May-15 21:13:15


Redundancies, TAs slashed, all technicians gone, all class sizes increasing to 30+, all on the very bones of PPA time. All CPD in-house.

Tea and coffee for teachers on parents evenings has just been cut. 12 hour day on our feet using our voices all day and they cant even spare us a weak brew brought round by volunteer sixth formers.

And now we can't even go on strike about it

WhenMarnieWasThere Tue 12-May-15 21:14:53

Terrible. We've spent a lot on staffing. We've lost money in the budget year on year. The ratios for staffing in foundation phase (Wales) has been changed.

TAs who are retiring or on maternity cover aren't being replaced.
Temporary teachers are not having contracts renewed.

Non teaching members of staff will cover absences/ppa more and some will go into jobshare classes that were covered by temporary staff.

No money for much else either.

TheFallenMadonna Tue 12-May-15 21:22:07

Unfunded pension changes and pay rise are killing us. Bursar is in despair.

Redlocks28 Tue 12-May-15 21:38:10

Give it two years and schools will be full of NQTs who can never get beyond MPS1 or whatever it's called now and no support staff!

noblegiraffe Wed 13-May-15 17:04:07

We are losing teachers who aren't being replaced (maths) so class sizes will be much bigger next year. I haven't heard that we are losing any TAs but we've got hardly any left after the last round of cuts anyway.

MrsUltracrepidarian Wed 13-May-15 19:47:12

Friend is governor in a 'good' school in the London suburbs.
Absolutely dire. Staff - and definitely not parents who are still being conned inot persuaded to sent their DC to the school - not yet in the loop as to how bad it really is.
As others have said, non-teaching SLT having to be in the real world teach not such a bad thing - always used to be case before big data took over non-teaching SLT became the norm.

yellowsun Wed 13-May-15 19:50:32

Dire here. 28k loss for new minimum wage. Now spending 90% of budget on wages...

PandaMummyofOne Wed 13-May-15 19:55:40

Beyond grim. We're on cycle four of redundancies and it's the biggest one yet. We need to save over £4,000,000 this year. Not including the savings on top of this from the previous four years. hmm

roughtyping Wed 13-May-15 20:06:07

angels I'm in EDC and it's similar, although I suspect our HT protects us from a lot of it. Although she told us how much we spend on printing shock. All seconded teachers have to go back to their 'home' schools next term, support for learning is looking bleak.

TheFallenMadonna Wed 13-May-15 20:08:56

There are no non teaching SLT in my school. Even the Head takes a class.

DoctorDonnaNoble Wed 13-May-15 20:41:39

Not good basically. We also now get charged 3p per sheet of photocopying! Departmental budgets slashed and we're having to cut the contact time for year 12 by an hour for each subject. Down to 4 hours a week per subject. This was done to protect range of subjects. Not sure how long 'minority' subjects can continue.

Redlocks28 Wed 13-May-15 20:43:03

Although we've lost TAs, we haven't lost teachers yet. Is anyone here in primary where there have been cuts made so that there aren't enough teachers to have one per class?

Redlocks28 Wed 13-May-15 20:43:57

3p per sheet out of your own pocket??

Bunbaker Wed 13-May-15 20:52:47

Worrying. I'm a governor on the finance committee. We had a round of redundancies last year and can't afford to lose any more staff.

None of the secondary schools in our LEA can balance their books this year. The school is oversubscribed, but as it is the best school in the LEA we get very little extra help from the local authority. These education cuts are so short sighted.

TheTroubleWithAngels Wed 13-May-15 20:54:09

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Redlocks28 Wed 13-May-15 20:57:55

What's McCrone? Is it PPA? In Scotland?

Does giving an extra week at Christmas to save on heating mean you're doing less than the contracted days in school? Do you have to do 195?

TheTroubleWithAngels Wed 13-May-15 20:59:39

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