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Just been OFSTEDed...

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CatKisser Fri 28-Nov-14 19:00:26

Bloody. Hell.
Well, it's as expected in terms of overall result. Not great. But on the positive side, both my observations went fabulously. I knew the second one was a winner when a kid asked a great question, the inspector burst out laughing and started joining in the lesson!
I have gin and some appalling Peach Schnapps I won in a raffle - currently making cocktails and chilling while dreading my weigh-in at Slimming World tomorrow!

PotteringAlong Fri 28-Nov-14 19:05:41


Hold onto the positives! Go you.

Hobnobissupersweet Sat 29-Nov-14 21:26:09

We'll done on surviving it, and go you on the obs

NoelleHawthorne Sat 29-Nov-14 21:27:30

Well done you. Whole school/marking wise what were they interested in. Did you really not get graded?

calzone Sun 30-Nov-14 00:12:15

Tell us more.....we are due imminently!

CatKisser Sun 30-Nov-14 07:57:50

Ok well there were two inspectors. The Lead was a woman in her 40's, very "nice" but turned out to be extremely knowledgeable and apparently probed at everything. The other was a man in early sixties, quite old school. His specialism was SEN and Safeguarding.

I got observed on day on as year six by the woman and the deputy head. They were defo in over twenty minutes. I had my feedback from the deputy as they were obviously assessing her ability to make lesson judgements. I didn't get a grade for that but she couldn't find any areas for development and I knew it had gone well. That evening I had subject leader interview joint with maths coordinator. It was fairly terrible. Without a doubt he had scrutinised the data and he knew it wasn't good enough. However, we are both fairly new to role and although he was impressed with what we've put in place, he said it had no measurable impact yet. Which is true. His words were "you're going to be disappointed by this report, but do look for the positives."

On day two, management actually got to pick two teachers to get a second onservation! So I got picked and got the man. As I said in OP, it couldn't have gone better. The Head gave feedback and graded it Outstanding. They actually spent about 15 minutes giving me feedback and the inspector said some extremely nice things about my teaching and my capacity for school leadership.

The rest of day two was awful as it actually emerged our website did not meet statutory requirement and so management were scratting about trying to fix that. Also, the head did some VERY questionable things regarding CP issues not being followed up.

Book scrutiny - well they only wanted books from year's three and six and by then theyd made their mind up. They gave me a list of names, mostly comprising of my Sen and FSM kids - great as most of them are my highers - and they wanted maths, English and a foundation book with extended writing in.

At the end of the day they wouldn't feedback to us! They called Govs in for an emergency meeting! Anyway, we now have out provisional grading, which I'm sure you can guess, but we are all feeling quite bizarrely positive.

Next day, head and deputy called me into office and asked me to reconsider leaving. I said I wasn't going anywhere. They've said take a couple of weeks to pull it all together, then do exactly what I need to do with my subject. This is good as at times I've felt ive only been allowed to "play" at being in charge.

Anyway, sorry for the essay. That was our ofsted experience!

Agggghast Sun 30-Nov-14 08:24:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

rollonthesummer Sun 30-Nov-14 10:42:15

Next day, head and deputy called me into office and asked me to reconsider leaving. I said I wasn't going anywhere.

Can you clarify what you mean here? Had you resigned?

CatKisser Sun 30-Nov-14 12:25:06

I had applied for two other jobs and had to tell them out of courtesy and because I needed a reference.

bloodyteenagers Sun 30-Nov-14 12:50:35

I would ask for this to be pulled very quickly.
You are not supposed to talk about the inspection until after the official report has been published. You cannot even hint at what the grade is.
Our school is very, very hot on this. We have seen it happen to another school, where a teacher innocently spoke about it before published paper. Ofsted withdraw that and went back into the school for a repeat inspection, they nit picked everything and went in with more than 2 inspectors.

padkin Sun 30-Nov-14 14:25:31

I was going to add similar... We were 'done' weeks ago, and still haven't had official report. And despite feedback to SMT and governors, we, the teaching staff, are still completely in the dark as to the result. Any discussion/gossip has been severely stamped on. We've been told it could effect the final result, and we just have to wait.... Lord help us if anyone had discussed on Facebook or an open forum. I know this is anonymous, but you've probably given enough details away for someone familiar with the school and what happened in the inspection to recognise it.

Well done on the observations, by the way smile

aJumpedUpPantryBoy Sun 30-Nov-14 15:15:48

bloody teenagers and padkin have said what I was about to say.
As SMT I was in on the feedback after our inspection and they were absolutely clear on the fact that nothing could be said - not even veiled hints

Ridingthestorm Sun 30-Nov-14 15:53:09

It isn't as if you can identify the school though is it?
I haven't a clue where the OP is from or what school she/he teaches at. Scaremongering. We are all Ware of the rules, but rules are supposed to be broken otherwise, what is the point in rules?????
We talked about ours all the time (staff room and immediate family). Never heard of any school getting into trouble for the is. Unless someone wants to highlight a specific school or will someone come on the thread with the 'I knew one school who ...' Story which anyone can say really but not verify unless you had the school name.

lougle Sun 30-Nov-14 16:09:03

"but rules are supposed to be broken otherwise, what is the point in rules?????"


The point of rules is to tell you what to do and what not to do. The you follow the rules.

Agggghast Sun 30-Nov-14 16:38:22

Recently a school on the IW was OFSTEDed and came out of SM they were told by the inspectors they this information could be publicised. The HT announced it on the website the day the inspectors left. It seems things might have changed.

rollonthesummer Sun 30-Nov-14 16:40:45

What is the IW?

Agggghast Sun 30-Nov-14 17:06:59

Isle of Wight

lougle Mon 01-Dec-14 06:46:56

Tbh, the IoW is a bit different because the vast majority of the schools came out so badly, and Children's Services were also deemed inadequate, so Hampshire has had to take over the running of Children's Services there.

Once the inspection is done, the Seisdon has to be ratified (especially if the grade is O or SM). Then the inspector types the report and submits it for checking by HMI (Her Majesty's Inspectors). Then that report is sent to the Head teacher, who can challenge the content or ask for rewording or reordering of points made. The inspector then has to agree/disagree. Only then does the report and grade get finalised.

Agggghast Mon 01-Dec-14 09:16:34

Why does that make it right they can publicise the report early?

Tbh the impact of Hampshire is diminished by the fact that secondary schools on IW are mainly academies/federations. Schools on the island were hideously let down by the previous Tory local council who got rid of middle schools without any planning/ investment so teachers were suddenly teaching different key stages without training/resources.

What is perturbing is that schools are coming out of SM yet results/data seem to show they are deteriorating, a political move in a vulnerable Tory seat?!?!

Ridingthestorm Mon 01-Dec-14 21:53:27

Life is full of rules and life dictates that rules get broken. Simple.

ReallyTired Mon 01-Dec-14 21:59:38

People can get outed on mumsnet. People remember posts from years ago and can sometimes out you. A post you innocently had on weaning/ sleep/ behavior etc could lead to you being outed on a totally different topic.

Please get this thread deleted and change your username.


clam Sun 07-Dec-14 20:32:03

We've just been told that if the result is leaked, even to teaching staff, then our grade is nullified and they will come back to re-do us!

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