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Newbiehere Mon 14-Oct-13 22:28:04

Hi there

Quick question. Are you qualified to teach in juniors if you completed your PGCE in an infant school and your training did not involve juniors? I think it's a no. Am I correct?

ReluctantBeing Mon 14-Oct-13 22:29:23

I think no.

Inclusionist Mon 14-Oct-13 22:33:01

Once you are qualified you can teach in ANY phase.

I did a Sec Science PGCE, NQT year in Y4, now Special Needs have taught YR - Y6. Would happily shift to SN KS3 -5.

42notTrendy Mon 14-Oct-13 22:33:51

Don't think so. My qualification says Primary but the specifies 7-11. Although I've taught in primaries and had F2, yr1 and Yr2.
If you are considering applying for a job then it would depend on your experience.

BrigitBigKnickers Mon 14-Oct-13 22:35:47

I trained for 5-9 year olds but have spent the last 15 years with upper juniors.

Sparkle9 Mon 14-Oct-13 22:36:57

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Littlefish Mon 14-Oct-13 22:42:47

Yes you are. My specialism during training was KS1 (I think!), but ai have taught in every year from nursery up to Year 4.

Newbiehere Mon 14-Oct-13 23:07:20

Thanks for the replies. Those of you who specialised in infants on your PGCE did you spend any time in key stage two whilst you were training?

StitchingMoss Mon 14-Oct-13 23:12:38

I'm the other way round Newbie, I specialised in KS2 and avoided KS1 like the plague in my training - although still had to do a set number of weeks there!

I'm still qualified to teach in both key stages - just wouldn't have a clue what to do with infants grin!

suze28 Mon 14-Oct-13 23:17:05

My PGCE is detailed as 5- 11 age range wise and I teach yr 3/4 currently. The training involves placements in consecutive age ranges so EYFS + KS1, KS1 + LKS2, LKS2 + UKS2 which is what I did. I'm happy to teach KS1 but when I'm a bit more experienced.

Newbiehere Mon 14-Oct-13 23:31:08

Hmm. Strange. I went to a really respected teaching college but only trained for key stage one. We never did any placements in juniors. The Canadians who came over to train had to though. Not sure why we didn't - didn't question it at the time. But now I'm not sure where I stand. I seem to think I am only qualified to teach 5-7 which seems a shame if they could have trained me up for juniors at the same time.

Newbiehere Mon 14-Oct-13 23:32:00

I also seem to think you can teach both key stages if you trained for juniors but not the other way round. Might be wrong though.

SilverApples Tue 15-Oct-13 00:40:52

Once you are qualified, you can teach anything your head asks you to. So I'm trained (decades ago) for 9-13, but I've taught everything from reception to Y7.

MrsBazinga Tue 15-Oct-13 16:39:25

Your PGCE qualification is simply a certificate of education - you are qualified to teach. You can legally teach in any year group. I did an Early Years specialism during my Primary PGCE, with placements in Nursery, Foundation and Y1/2, but once qualified can teach up to Y6, and in fact, I think I could probably teach secondary without re-training, though I certainly wouldn't want to, and I doubt any secondary school would consider me!

LittleRobots Tue 15-Oct-13 16:47:14

I'm the other way around. I'm secondary trained and mainly sort 16. Would love to teach foundation but although a pgce qualifies you to teach any age I don't have the knowledge or skills.

I'm trying for post 16 at the mement!

juniper9 Wed 16-Oct-13 18:07:51

Gove has removed the requirement for QTS, so anyone can teach any age as long as the Head OKs it.

LittleRobots Wed 16-Oct-13 18:19:30

Are they still running nqt years?

suze28 Wed 16-Oct-13 23:50:22

Yes they are. Still with half termly observations and relevant support etc.

sheridand Thu 17-Oct-13 13:03:19

QTS is QTS. I am PGCE Secondary trianed, but am currently working Primary with a view to changing for good. Provided you get yourself up to speed, you can change.

sheridand Thu 17-Oct-13 13:03:36

Trained, even. But clearly not trained how to type.

LittleRobots Thu 17-Oct-13 15:36:34

Did you just apply for a primary job? Or do voluntary work or something first? I know the re-training courses don't exist anymore. Just curious what you did to make yourself attractive to the employer when up against those trained in the relevant age group!

I realise once you're in and you've got recent experience it no longer matters.

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