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Fucking neuter your male cats PLEASE

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Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 06:06

I have woken up this morning to a horrible stink that was created by the bastard Tom cat from down the road that has come in through an open window and sprayed everywhere. It stinks!

I've tried everything with this cat. I've sprayed water, done the wall of fear, put a paper collar on him telling the owners what he was doing (which would be stopped by a simple ball removal) but still months later the same thing is happening.

Ragdoll has been injured by him a good few times requiring vet treatment, I understand cats fight and the levers aren't responsible for this but he would be less aggressive if his balls were removed.

I have 4 neutered cats. But this one is clearly locked out at night and finds his way in for a feed and a warm. I had to open said window as DS who is disabled with health problems, was fitting and needed cooling down. We fell asleep and were woken up to bastard Tom howling at ragdoll and then the smell hit.

I'm at the end of my tether with him (or more accurately his owners, although I don't know who they are)

If you own a black and white Tom cat with a white tip at the end of his tail, just neuter him and let him in at night PLEASE!

If anyone has any ideas on how to deter this cat I would be very grateful. He is actually a very lovely little soul, although stinky and full of fleas (clearly flea collars aren't very effective as he has a new one on every week)

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Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 06:07

The owners aren't responsible, not levers, sorry

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Whoknewitcouldbeso · 30/12/2015 06:21

I would catch him up myself and get him neutered with no hesitation whatsoever.

Costacoffeeplease · 30/12/2015 06:34

So would I, simple job on a male cat

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 06:41

Would there not be an issue of aftercare though? And of when he last ate? Also what would I do if something did go wrong with the anaesthetic and he died. I wouldn't even know how to find his owners

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NashvilleQueen · 30/12/2015 06:54

Do you know he definitely has owners? If so, could you speak to them directly. This sounds like a nightmare and you have my sympathy.

MrsJamin · 30/12/2015 06:55

Can you attach something to his collar for them to read? Bizarre making a cat be outside at night, not kind at all.

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:03

He definitely has owners as he has a new flea collar on every week. In the summer he was infested with fleas, which doesn't surprise me if they're just using collars to deal with them, it was that bad that his fur was faking out on his back, so I put on some flea treatment, removed the flea collar and put a paper one on explaining I had flead him and what he has doing and asking them to neuter him.

The next day he was back with a new flea collar on.

I don't know who his owners are or I would go and talk to them. I've asked around but no one seems to know, I live on a pretty big estate

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Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:06

I even put my number on the collar and asked them to call me and said I knew of help with neutering costs

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Costacoffeeplease · 30/12/2015 07:06

I would take him to the vet, explain you don't know when he last ate, ask them to keep him overnight and operate the next day. Either you or they keep him in the next night, and he can be released the next day, minus balls. We have lots of stray cats neutered and that's how we do it

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:09

Thanks Costa, I'll try to do what when DS is a bit better. Would they definitely do that with him being someone's pet Who didn't give permission though?

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Costacoffeeplease · 30/12/2015 07:27

I would just deny all knowledge - he's a cat that hangs around and needs neutering, tbh if the 'owners' aren't looking after him properly, I'd be tempted to say he's a stray anyway

I don't live in the U.K., and street cats are a big problem here, so it's totally normal to just turn up at a vet with a random cat, but I appreciate its different there

usernamesandgingerbreads · 30/12/2015 07:28

I'm am entirely on the cheerleading team for neutering but no way on earth would our vets neuter someone else's cat without their permission unless it had been brought in as a stray and kept the seven day period.

Op would also have to keep him for the full recovery period too.

usernamesandgingerbreads · 30/12/2015 07:30

Can you speak to cats protection for advice?

glitterinmyeyes · 30/12/2015 07:33

Could you hand him in to a vets as a potential stray? Maybe they could tell the owners if they collect him that he needs to be neutered as he's attacking other people's cats?

Sorry if this is stupid advice, I don't know a lot about cats except that I can't stand them because they behave like this

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:37

I have contacted cats protection when his fur had fallen out in clumps on his back and he was full of fleas, but they just said it could be due to fighting and posted him on found cats but said they couldn't do anything if he was owned but sent the paper collars. I don't have much Money but weighing up the cost of neutering with the cost of replacing furniture and vet bills for ragdoll when he's attacked in his own home i wouldn't mind footing the bill, it's just that I doubt the vets would let me just turn up and neuter a random stray, my vets know what cats I have as well so I couldn't get away with pretending he was mine, and with his flea problems I wouldn't want to, he's most likely full of worms as well if they can't be bothered to flea him so I can't really keep him in the house with 4 other cats and a disabled child.

Argh. It's so frustrating! It's not the poor cats fault and he is a very lovely and friendly boy. Why do people have cats if they can't be bothered looking after them? There's a storm here tonight and the poor thing has been outside in it, Strog winds and heavy rainfall and floods everywhere.

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Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:39

If I handed him in as a potential stray though, what would happen to him if he wasn't claimed? It is something I could do, as long as it wouldn't harm the poor thing

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Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:39

It's just that I very much doubt he is chipped if he's never flead and isnt neutered

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usernamesandgingerbreads · 30/12/2015 07:47

The law regards cats as property, or ‘chattel’, so any offence against owned cats can be classed as criminal damage.

If he is in conditions of neglect i would be very tempted to speak to the vet for advice, explain honestly that the paper collars havent been answered but you have seen new flea collars. If he is in very bad condition the vets may take action themselves.

Just for the record I DO think he should be neutered but you could get into a whole heap of trouble for doing so.

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 07:51

That's what I was worried about usernames. I'm going to get a photo of him next time and take to asking randoms if they know who's it is. Old man down the road who stole my cat (in the nicest way you can do such A thing bless him) would have known, but he's moved away now.

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DesertOrDessert · 30/12/2015 08:06

It isn't solving the problem, but could you afford to get some fly screens installed? Then the windows could be opened, but cat can't get in. Not sure how it would work with typical uj windows, but all our windows slide, and have insvet screens. It also keeps the feral cats out cause they are in like a shot if you leave an open gap!

DesertOrDessert · 30/12/2015 08:09

or something like this if your window frames are magnetic?

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 08:15

That's a good idea if it was just the Windows, but we have a microchip cat flap, and I've seen him wait for one of mine to come out of in and the shoot in after them before it closes. I bought the microchip flap to keep him out but he's too clever for it to fool him! It's also if we go out of the door, it has to be open for a bit to get DSs wheelchair out etc and he sneaks past sometimes Even when I'm watching for him. He's just so determined!

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DorynownotFloundering · 30/12/2015 08:22

Can you take him to the nearest Cats protection home (without the collar) & say he's a stray who keeps hanging round & is obviously neglected? (not untrue)

The poor boy deserves a new home with folks who look after him, you are obviously kinder to him than his real owners which is why he keeps coming back to you!

Then you know he'll be in safe hands & hopefully get a nice new family, and you haven't had to fork out for someone else's cat.

Hurr1cane · 30/12/2015 08:31

Is that what I should do? I'm just getting the guilt at thinking I'm stealing someone's pet. I think I'm going to get a photo and post it to them, say the paper collars were left unanswered and that he's in a terrible state.

The only thing is, 6 years ago my neighbours moved out and left their cat behind, purposely. I know this because I saw them in town one week and told them their cat was still in their garden and the new owners didn't know what to do and they just said 'yeah we left him there'

So I rang cats protection and the RSPCA and neither would do anything at all. Eventually someone else took him in.

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Arkkorox · 30/12/2015 08:36

Or take him to the vet. See if he's chiped. Get the owners number and address and go and have a word/phone them?

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