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Fleas! Since January.

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MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 12:34:23

How do I get rid of the horrid things?

I first realised we had them when I started getting bites and noticed cat scratching. Pretty sharpish got her the pills that kill them, the flea preventer spot-on stuff (which I hadn't kept up with, I admit), flea spray, flea bombs. I sprayed specific areas. I did 2 bombs, one up and downstairs (where you have to remove all plants/ food/ anything that will be used to eat on etc. and wash all the worktops/ table down etc.). Everytime cat scratched, I gave her another killer pill. Brushed her fur, used to get a few when I did that and have to drown them, but she hates being brushed so it is really difficult.

They came back. More pills, bombs - phase 2. We are now on Phase 3 killer pills (a different brand) and re-applied the spot-on as it is 5 weeks plus need to do more bombs as actually saw a flea yesterday though not been getting bites, thank goodness.

I don't know what to do? Is she getting them from the ones that are in the house? Or is is somewhere outside she keeps picking them back up?

Has anyone successfully got rid of fleas and how did you do it?

thecatneuterer Fri 07-Mar-14 12:42:13

I have never heard of pills to kill fleas. And of course the only way they can work, I should imagine, is to somehow make the blood of the cat poisonous to fleas - in the same way as Program liquid which is added to food. So obviously that isn't going to work as quickly as a spot on.

It really sounds as though you might be using the wrong stuff generally. Off the shelf products DON'T WORK. You need to use products from either a vet or a chemist. And Frontline is loosing its effectiveness too.

So you need as a spot on for the cat either Advantage, Advocate or Stonghold.

And as a spray for the house either Acclaim or Indorex.

However now that you've already used a lot of stuff you need to be careful that you don't overdose your cat. Some off the shelf products can be really toxic to cats. So I think you're probably going to have to wait a couple of weeks before treating them with the proper stuff. Or go and buy it from your vet, tell them what you've used already and when, and ask their advice.

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:05:01

OK. Thanks. The flea killer one is Bob Martin (previous was 4 Fleas) and the spot-on is also Bob Martin. I have not gone to vets because I resent the ridiculous charges unless it's absolutely necessary! We don't have a lot of spare cash. If people can give me the names of products which I could buy on the internet, that would be great.

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:06:03

I think the difference between the spot on and the pill is that the spot on is supposed to be a preventer whilst the other one claims to kill all fleas in 24 hours.

EvansOvalPiesYumYum Fri 07-Mar-14 13:12:04

Hi Merry - if you're constantly buying proprietary brands like Bob Martin, then you really are wasting your money. I use Advocate (from the Vet). Yes, it is more expensive than your supermarket purchase initially, but works in one dose, and lasts for a couple of months.

One dose of a Advocate (or Advantage, or similar from the Vet) is far more effective than several administrations of the Bob Martin-type. IMO

You also should treat your furnishings, carpets, etc, with a good spray, as fleas are able to live away from their host for a very long time, and will simply re-infest when they think their time is right. (I can't think of the name of the spray we use, as I've just disposed of the can, but we get it from the Vet as well).

EvansOvalPiesYumYum Fri 07-Mar-14 13:14:09

Just re-read the whole thread- Acclaim is the household spray we use (thx CatNeuterer) smile

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 07-Mar-14 13:21:02

Merry the tablet you have used is a knock down has no residual effect so kills live fleas on cat at that moment, but doesn't work after that. The Bob Martin household flea drops are very ineffective.
I am afraid flea products are very much something you buy cheap you buy twice.
The most cost effective prescription flea treatment on the market currently is Activyl which kills live fleas and prevents them breeding in your house.

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:23:04

It's weird though as my parents only ever used proprietary brands (and still do) and likewise us. We've never had issues before. (And my parents have had cats for the past 30 years!).

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:24:00

Thanks for all the names. I will have a search.

cozietoesie Fri 07-Mar-14 13:28:58

It could simply be luck of the draw, Merry. Maybe your parents and you (and all the cats) have just been lucky enough to avoid exposure.

Mycatistoosexy Fri 07-Mar-14 13:30:00

Bob Martin is useless. I noticed fleas on my cat so I got bob Martin drops and duly put them on. I think it actually encouraged them tbh. Poor cat was so miserable.

Went to vets, paid a lot of money for Stronghold drops and the a Program injection. Got some acclaim spray plus lavender oil for the bedding. Hot washed everything I could and it seems to be getting under control now. My cat definitely has no fleas on her anymore

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:36:33

Hi. I needed a prescription to buy Activyl. I got the spray online though.

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:37:48

Well done! We have carpets. 4 beds, not to mention she sleeps anywhere and everywhere, sofas etc. I think I'm going to be needing a whole lot of spray. I just never imagined it would go on this long.

Mycatistoosexy Fri 07-Mar-14 13:42:07

Hoover your mattresses once a week. Hoover the sofas daily and throughout the house daily. Hoovering kills a lot of fleas really. Empty your Hoover daily and spray flea spray on there.

Sympathies though. It's like a never ending war, little blighters.

cozietoesie Fri 07-Mar-14 13:42:43

Are you hoovering like a mad thing? That would help - especially in cracks, under things, edges etc.

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 07-Mar-14 13:43:37

You will need a prescription product to get on top of this I am afraid.

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:46:00

Lonecat, how does it work? How does prescription make a difference (stronger?). They jump on the cat and then get killed?

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:48:33

I'm not a much of a hoover-er. Oh well. Time to change!

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 13:49:04

We have floorboards. Heck of a lot of cracks. Hence the flea 'bombs'.

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 07-Mar-14 13:50:22

Prescription products are much newer more sophisticated technologies than the over the counter stuff which kills fleas faster. The quickest over the counter product that has a residual action is frontline kills fleas in 24 to 48 hours, the newest prescription products kill fleas in 20 minutes and keep working for 30 days. As I say you get what you pay for

Mycatistoosexy Fri 07-Mar-14 13:50:53

Stronghold makes it so that any flea who jumps on her fur dies. The Program injection sterilises any flea who makes it through to bite her so breaks the life cycle. I just got the injection as a back up really.

OP if money is tight I have some spare Advantage drops knocking around, bought them then plumped for Stronghold in the end. It's not prescription but the vet does sell it and I think it's better than Bob Martin/Frontline

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 07-Mar-14 13:52:45

Advantage only kills live fleas it doesn't treat the environment in this situation with a chronic flea problem you are going to need a spot on with live flea kill and environmental control to solve the problem.

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 14:20:34

Thanks all. I think I need a trip to the vet then...or we will just continue to fork out £15 here, £20 there ad finitum. Thanks for the offer Mycat. Maybe you could use the Advantage when the Stronghold runs out and the problem is gone. I am so surprised that no-one has been bitten except me (and the cat).

MerryMarigold Fri 07-Mar-14 14:21:32

should be INFINITUM!

Fluffycloudland77 Fri 07-Mar-14 14:38:30

I got a private prescription off my vet for £8, six months supply of Advocate off an online pharmacy worked out at £4 per month with a bit of cashback off topcashback.

Bob martin spot on nearly killed my freinds kitten, if she hadn't have gone home at lunch to pick some papers up it would have been fatal.

I'd like to see it banned.

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