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Getting puss to use tray inside instead of in the yard

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Wordsaremything Tue 25-Feb-14 19:52:59

Another kitty conundrum- the reverse of a previous poster's dilemma!

My youngest dc (all 3 are rescue) has turned her nose up at the litter tray she used happily when confined indoors. She now prefers to poo in the yard. My other two cats can jump out of yard at will, but she has a deformed back leg which doesn't affect her speed of movement but makes her more wary of jumping and balancing.

They can also go out at the front on demand, but she hates being out at the front.

No medical issues I'm aware of. I think she was under 12 months when I adopted her last September. Has been starved, I think in the past- utter desperation for food but that has now lessened to normal cat imperiousness, which is fine.

cozietoesie Tue 25-Feb-14 19:59:00

When did the vet last give her a thorough check-up, Words? (I'm just wondering whether her gammy leg is causing her more problems than you realized when she was younger (or perhaps her condition has worsened/tendons tightened or something) and if perhaps she's just pooing where she is - because that's physically easier than coming inside.)

Wordsaremything Tue 25-Feb-14 21:20:18

She hasn't been to vet yet as she was given all clear by RSPCA (kicks herself)

The pooing in the yard isn't random- she squeezes behind huge pot plants to poo on leaves and has also managed to balance on a large abandoned plant pot filled with earth to poo in that.

Don't get the impression it's desperation - more deliberation really.

cozietoesie Tue 25-Feb-14 21:26:33

I think I'd still get her checked over first. The first big sign of Seniorboy's arthritis was his pooing outside his tray - and although she's too young for age-related arthritis, it may be that her gammy leg has brought/caused its own problems. 'twill do no harm anyway.

(Seniorboy was put on meds for his old bones and although there's still the very occasional accident, pooing being a physical stress for them, it's largely been resolved.)

cozietoesie Tue 25-Feb-14 21:28:27

PS - does she still pee in the tray?

cozietoesie Tue 25-Feb-14 21:39:39

PPS - and sorry. My brain is befuddled this evening.

Just how many trays have you got? Some cats prefer to have a different tray for peeing and pooing so if you've only got the one - or your other two like to avail themselves of the indoor facilities as well - at least one more tray may be indicated. (Seniorboy has two trays and uses both as the mood/bodily function takes him.)

Wordsaremything Wed 26-Feb-14 19:57:05

Hello Cozie she has just the one. Dc1 and 2 go outside. Put another one in her room just now and she immediately weed in it. Should the two trays be in different places or not? She's never weed or pooed on the floor or anything. Just using the yard as a huge loo.can you get outdoor cat loos I wonder?

cozietoesie Wed 26-Feb-14 21:53:10

I have Seniorboy's trays in different rooms but not that far apart - across the upstairs hall from each other. It's really down to where she likes them although I wouldn't put them smack bang next to each other.

I don't know about purposed outdoor loos although I should imagine they're available. Maybe just try the two indoor trays for a couple of days and see how you get on? Her peeing immediately in the new one is pretty much a sign of approval I would have thought.

By the way - have you always used the same type of litter?

cozietoesie Thu 27-Feb-14 00:10:38

I just quickly googled outdoor cat toilet and there seem to be lots of them around. Here's one as an example.

Maybe some other posters have used them and could give you a view or a recommendation.

Wordsaremything Thu 27-Feb-14 23:39:10

Cozie you are a mine of info!

Norma did a poo in litter tray 2 today!. Seems to be using original one to wee in.

Thanks so much- huge help!

Wordsaremything Thu 27-Feb-14 23:42:31

Am loving those outside cat loos though. ( strokes whiskers )

Wordsaremything Thu 27-Feb-14 23:44:06

Yes always used same litter( running to catch up)

cozietoesie Thu 27-Feb-14 23:50:55

It's early days yet - but looking more hopeful ? I'd see how she does over the weekend.


cozietoesie Thu 27-Feb-14 23:56:48

PS - she sounds as if she's become a tray fusspot so best to be very assiduous in cleaning up any tray detritus as soon as you see the tray has been used.

(Seniorboy actually comes and tells me when he's used a tray if, say, I'm downstairs and haven't noticed or heard the scratching. (He expects them to be cleaned directly.) He wasn't as bad when he was younger but nowadays.......)

Wordsaremything Sun 02-Mar-14 21:09:32

She's back to weeing in indoor tray, pooing outside sad

cozietoesie Sun 02-Mar-14 21:15:35

Oh Dear. How long for? (There may well be the odd accident if it's just the one poo.)

Maybe an outside tray is the thing?

Wordsaremything Mon 03-Mar-14 19:12:27

About four times. But I refreshed the litter in her indoor trays and she's pooed in it again today. Hurrah ! Maybe she's super-fussy over cleanliness ? which is an issue as I can't be a stay at home slave much as they all would love me to be. I think I will get one of those outside trays and see what happens? Thanks so much for your ongoing advice on this Cozie .

Wordsaremything Mon 03-Mar-14 19:15:28

And tOmorrow will thoroughly clean yard of dead leaves, abandoned earth filled plant pots etc etc and provide two sparkling trays upstairs ( am at home tomorrow so will see what happens)

cozietoesie Mon 03-Mar-14 19:21:31

A fusspot then. As I said, Seniorboy expects his tray to be cleaned directly after it's used. Luckily, there's someone around the house pretty well all day to do what he wants.

I'd keep the indoor trays even when you get the outdoor one. (Just in case there's an errant zephyr which might disturb Her Highness and make her want to use the indoor facilities.)

I'd also mention it to the vet at her next checkup. Myself, I think I'd get her checked over reasonably soon as well. Nothing against that previous vet but her gammy leg could have changed in the time she's been with you so I think it would be worth taking her for a general look-see.

Good luck with her.

Wordsaremything Mon 03-Mar-14 20:04:30

Hi yes I realise I've ignored the vet advice bit. I'll get her checked and report back. Am reluctant only as fab vet is some miles distant and I hate to traumatise them with a long car journey lest I have to.

NearTheWindymill Mon 03-Mar-14 20:13:41

Sorry, are you chaps saying that if your babies use the litter tray you don't remove/clean up immediately insofar as you can - work permitting etc? shock

cozietoesie Mon 03-Mar-14 20:19:38

I do but not everyone does - and it can depend on the type of litter they use or what's been deposited. I've been well trained, though, and over many years.

Wordsaremything Mon 03-Mar-14 20:31:32

Catsan is of course the current favourite!

I think Cozie is onto something actually. She'll poo once inside in the ( convenient warm scratchy litter tray) then go outside if she needs to poo again that day - to avoid the horrid smell and keep in touch with her wild side.

cozietoesie Tue 11-Mar-14 20:38:44

Well that's excellent news about her pooing inside. smile

You might still get the odd accident of course (we mostly all see those from time to time when they're taken short) but it's good progress.

cozietoesie Tue 11-Mar-14 20:41:31

PS - I just noticed that she's got a bad tummy, though. How long has that been for?

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