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Back again for advice on another urchin that has 'found' me!

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Applecrumbly Sun 01-Dec-13 14:22:02

Hi to everyone that helped me a few months ago when I found a kitten and kept it and was literally shellshocked at the madness of a new kitten ,having only ever had dogshmm.But our little Cleo is now 7 months,been spayed and we love her to bits and is much calmer(well thats what I thought until we put the xmas tree upgrin).
Last Tuesday however,I found a large tabby crying pitifully in the garden-we are rural so surrounded by fields etc) - and of course I fed her and off she went,except of course she didnt go anywhere and was back the next day and is still here.She is really friendly and keeps rubbing herself round my ankles and pushing her head into my hand to be stroked and purring etc.She seems to be very vocal,crying even when she has been fed etc.
I have made a bed for her in the woodshed,under a table and lots of blankets etc because heres the thing..I think she might be pregnant.Im not sure but I think so.She is eating an awful lot...approx 3 pouches a day and lots of dry also.
What will I do? Is it ok to just carry on like this,providing shelter and food.Will she be warm enough? I cant bring her indoors as we have a dog and an indoor kitten and if she has kittens we will be over run with cats and I dont really want that.
She is a large tabby and is really lovely and friendly.
Sigh!Why do they always find me?

Fluffycloudland77 Thu 26-Dec-13 21:50:42

They liked humans, just moody with each other.

Applecrumbly Thu 26-Dec-13 21:14:25

Actually snooty and moody is probably a very apt descriptionfhmm.

Applecrumbly Thu 26-Dec-13 21:13:27

Thanks for that reassurance fluffy fshock.

Fluffycloudland77 Thu 26-Dec-13 18:18:02

We've had three female cats. They were all mental, nice to humans but snooty and moody with each other.

I like neutered boy cats, they like fuss and food.

Applecrumbly Thu 26-Dec-13 18:14:05

Thats funny you mention the litter tray carry-on..kitten and cat have a litter tray each but the kitten seems to delight in using the litter tray belonging to the other cat .Is this normal then..I assumed they would each prefer to use their own one?Is it a territorial thing as in 'I'll show you who's boss and I will do a huge poo in your litter box'fgrin.?
Honestly the carry-on is just unreal by them.They spend hours simply staring at each other on the landing sometimes,both in a sort of 'loaf' positionfhmm.

catameringue Thu 26-Dec-13 13:40:08

I love how passive aggressive cats can be. My girls line up to toilet in boy cats litter tray in the morning sometimes and one steals his bed. He does it back of course. It's like a cold war!

My dh was struggling to bond with the girls. I taught him not to approach them and he feeds them more which helps. It has to be on their terms.

I put my newest cat away at night to give the others respite so that can help ease the tension. Otherwise I'd let them both roam and find their feet.

Applecrumbly Thu 26-Dec-13 00:30:07

Oh thanks for that Iwould and Thistle.I was just thinking along those lines today actually.We had family round for lunch today and several of them wanted to come upstairs and 'see' Bella and she is just sitting on her bed in the spare room mostly,wanders out to the landing now and again and scuttles back in again if dh strides upstairs or if there is a loud noise etc.I was wondering today if she will simply stay there forever like a sort of lodger that we never see.
Not helped today of course by remarks from my mother/sister etc saying things like'that cant be right can it,you cant keep a cat up here forever'.She seems happy out being fed well and is warm and cosy etc so I guess we will see eh?I will keep you all updated.Thanks fsmile.

ThistledownAndCobweb Tue 24-Dec-13 20:04:22

I'm sure she'll settle.
We got a rescue girl a couple of months ago. She spent the first week under the spare bed and wouldn't go near DH but would come to me.
She then ventured out but would find hidey holes and secret herself away.
I was worried that we were going to have a cat we never saw, and that she wouldn't have any freedom.

She now thinks she owns the house, she smacks the terrier on the bottom when he walks past and will even sit on DHs lap if he picks her up.

She hasn't become friendly with my other cats but they just ignore each other which is fine.

Today she's been charging in and out of the cat flap all day and having a whale of a time.

Iwouldratherbemuckingout Tue 24-Dec-13 09:58:51

I'm loving this story on Xmas eve smile specially cos I'm feeling grotty so am snuggled under the duvet with little black cat.

I think she just needs time to explore and to feel safe. My little Lillie was born at the rescue she came from, and it took her a good time to extend her boundaries to the whole house. She started off in the conservatory and worked her way out from there. Just let her do things in her own time. The thing my Lillie took a long time to get used to was the tv, she would only come into the living room when it was off for ages.

Now it's a different matter and she likes nothing better than some knee time in front of the tv!

Good luck, I think Bella is a lucky girl smile

Applecrumbly Sun 22-Dec-13 23:59:46

Aw thanks booftedfblush.Yes she is getting there slowly but surely bless her.

boofted Sun 22-Dec-13 22:33:02

I am so glad you brought her back in grin Sounds like she is making herself at home. You're a nice person.

Applecrumbly Sat 21-Dec-13 14:12:14

Thanks everyone for your replies.Thats interesting janey..very similar.Thanks as usual cozieand fluffysmile.

janeyjampot Fri 20-Dec-13 22:03:35

We adopted a stray and his behaviour was quite similar. Initially when we shut him in he shot upstairs and hid under a bed. He stayed there for ages, and when he finally started to explore he'd run back under there at the slightest noise. It didn't last that long though. A few days later at most he was exploring the whole house, but sometimes in a very wary manner. Similar to your cat, he didn't like DH at first and was nervous if he moved around. A year on he's very settled with us but doesn't like my Dad at all - I think he must have had a bad experience with men at some point. My Dad does tend to stride around though smile

Fluffycloudland77 Fri 20-Dec-13 22:03:13

Maybe that's the cat equivalent of fuck you kitten.

It'll go one of two ways, mutual ignoring or eventual friendship.

Watch shorty and kodi videos on youtube, their owner introduced them very carefully and they are great freinds. Kodi was an annoying little bugger to start with though.

cozietoesie Fri 20-Dec-13 21:50:27

Yes it does. If a cat was deeply unhappy by 'confinement', you'd soon know about it, believe me. She sounds as if she's steadying and getting her bearings after a rough time.

I wonder why she dislikes your DH so much. Maybe badly treated by a man previously?

Applecrumbly Fri 20-Dec-13 21:34:17

Just an update on my little stray friendfsmile.Well,last saturday I thought 'sod it I cant give up on her not settling in to the house so soon' and decided to try again.I coaxed her into the carrier and brought her indoors again but this time I thought I would give her her own room as her own little safe haven as opposed to plonking her straight into the living room which is what I did last time.
She seems very happy there,has food,water,litter box and an old duvet on top of a double bed to snuggle into,and a couple of toys(which she ignores).The first few days she simply stayed put in there and I made sure the kitten didnt go near but once a day I would take the kitten in to her in my arms for a few minutes etc.It soon became apparant to us that the stray is not the aggressor at all but the kittenfshock.She kept going up to the door and would hiss and spit and growl at the stray when she would catch a glimpse of her and the odd time she escaped into the room she would go to eat the food etc.The stray would simply watch from a distance.
A few days ago then I started to confine the kitten for half hour or so and I would leave the strays bedroom door open and lo and behold the stray began wandering out and exploring the other bedrooms etc.She wanders into dds room and gets up on the bed but the slightest noise and she runs straight back to her own room under the bed,She is terrified of dh and scarpers as soon as she sees him or hears him on the stairs-I have no idea why,he likes her but cant get near her.
So,at the moment herself and kitten have become sort of used to each other...I leave the door open all the time now as long as I am in the house and kitten wanders in and out and stray doesnt seem to mind and then stray might wander out and go back in again then...I close the door at nightime or if the kitten is being very annoying etc.
So my question to you guys now is will I simply be led by her and see what happens?There is no way she will come downstairs..I have tried and tried but no good.Does it sound like she is happy enough with this set up?I feel like she is a prisoner fhmm.
She is eating really well,using litter box etc.She made me laugh yesterday as I have another open litter tray in the bathroom which the kitten uses upstairs but I saw the stray hop into it yesterday and do a big poo as if to say 'right ,that will fix you pesky kitten'.Kitten was there watching looking rather stunnedfshock.
So does it sound like she will get more confident but it will simply take time?

Applecrumbly Wed 11-Dec-13 23:25:43


cozietoesie Wed 11-Dec-13 22:58:13

Verbally, yes. If she really wanted to you'd hear the yowls from deep inside the house.

Applecrumbly Wed 11-Dec-13 22:54:24

Thanks cozie I do really value your advice..fsmile.Thats interesting,would a cat really create mayhem if they desperately wanted to get back in?

cozietoesie Wed 11-Dec-13 22:32:36

The kitten is still only young and being faced with a feisty full grown female is probably a lot for her - she's wanting Mom-type treatment and isn't getting it so is likely confused. Things may get easier with time and as she grows in confidence.

Oh - and the big girl will be fine in the shed. (As evidenced by the fact that she's staying in there rather than creating mayhem to get back in the house.) If it gets really bitter, there are heat sources (heat pads, hotties etc) that you can put in there to add to her blankets.

Applecrumbly Wed 11-Dec-13 22:25:53

Oh okay boofted thats interesting to know.Yes I do keep thinking will I or wont I?

boofted Wed 11-Dec-13 20:38:59

We have a stray cat that has been living in our greenhouse for 2 years now. I have made several boxes for him to sleep in. They are insulated and filled with straw which keeps them warm and dry. I also put a heat pad in with him at night and a hot water bottle during the day. I have put a couple of candles under some terracotta pots to keep the frost out too. I'd bring him in but he isn't too friendly and we have other cats inside the house. I'm sure your wee cat will be warm enough. Although I'd persevere with her and the kitten. It doesn't sound like it would take them long to tolerate each other. I've had cats that have had major fights for a week or two and then became best friends.

Applecrumbly Wed 11-Dec-13 18:14:34

cozie forgot to say you were of course spot on again with your predictionssmile.

Applecrumbly Wed 11-Dec-13 18:11:41

I know cory but I feel so mean keeping her in the shed having had her indoors for 4 days but she just does not like the kitten at all. She seems to be spending all her day curled up in her bed in the shed and just getting up to eat and go out to the loo etc.Please reassure me that she will be fine in the shed..I have a pile of blankets/rugs under a table and a screen half round it in the form of an old curtain and her food and water next to it.The door is ajar just wide enough for her to get out and I will add even more layers if the weather gets really cold.Do cats have the common sense to burrow down into layers of blankets if its really cold?I am too much of a fusspot arent I?fhmm.

Corygal Wed 11-Dec-13 16:57:54

Apple - this is a lovely story, so nice to have an extra cat in one's life. I bet she's set to stay with you now.

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