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lakia Wed 28-Aug-13 17:54:06

I am sorry this is in the wrong place but I am having trouble using this site at the moment.
I got myself a pedigree kitten yesterday and she is beautiful paid quite a bit for her off a proper breeder.
The breeder bought her to me. To my shock shortly after I discovered that the kitten has fleas and I am really concerned in case I end up with an infestation in my house.
I have today spent a fortune on a house spray and treatment for the kitten.
I have made the breeder aware of this and they have said that no way did she have them yesterday as was taken to the vet yesterday to have vaccinations she has said she is offended by me saying this.
So what do you think have I handled this badly and dont you think I have a right to say.

lljkk Sat 31-Aug-13 09:58:03

Lakia: I'm sorry you have been criticised here.
What did the vet say who did the vaccinations (Take note Readers, OP has said she has record); did they confirm the kitten is in their records, and that they neutered her, too?

If any part of the story turns out to be untrue then you MUST take this to Trading Standards. For a pedigree you pay a pretty penny, don't let the breeder dupe others.

ClaimedByMe Fri 30-Aug-13 20:07:34

Did you watch the program on tv recently, it was about breeding dogs, 'breeders' were forging documents, like vet cards and pedigree documents!

everlong Fri 30-Aug-13 20:06:38

OP did you get the vaccination card, proof of neutering?

lljkk Fri 30-Aug-13 20:03:14

I'm not angry at OP. She's not first & she wont' be the last to be duped. I am furious at breeder though.

cozietoesie Fri 30-Aug-13 19:20:19

Thanks for that. Useful.

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 30-Aug-13 19:08:42

If there is no vaccination certificate I would always recommend a vaccination course. The risks of being unvaccinated are far, far greater than the risks of double vaccination courses.

StephenFrySaidSo Fri 30-Aug-13 16:21:09

if this was me I would take a taxi the 9 miles to the breeders. I would want to see her home where the kitten came from and speak to the vet and ask to see all the records relating specifically to that kitten.

and I would have done it on Wednesday!

cozietoesie Fri 30-Aug-13 16:13:06


If the situation is/remains imprecise, is there any harm which could be done by starting a new first vaccination course within the normal time limits or would that remain the best choice of action?

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 30-Aug-13 15:46:18

OP. The breeder's response to your query about fleas seems a little OTT, most of the breeder's I work with would say I'm sorry I will check the other cats. Most breeders will have fleas at some point in their career no matter how careful they are.
This response would make me question the other information you have been given.
So do you have a vaccination certificate clearly identifying your kitten. If the answer is no then almost certainly the kitten has not been vaccinated and the safest thing would be to start all over again.
Does the kitten have a shaved patch either on it's left side or on it's tummy? If no then it has not been neutered. No vet would do surgery without shaving (the contamination risk would be awful) and the kitten is too young for the hair to have grown back.
This would be the advice I would give you if you were my client.

SilverApples Fri 30-Aug-13 14:56:02

It's not about the OP, it is about a young kitten, neutered very early and infested with fleas, and what is the best care option.

birdybear Fri 30-Aug-13 13:50:54

Its perfectly possible also, cozietoesie, to jump on the bandwagon with everyone else and make issues for the op that she didn't originally have. Anyway, i am not that bothered to argue about it!

cozietoesie Fri 30-Aug-13 09:40:58

That maybe just how it's presenting, birdybear. It's perfectly possible to seize on one physical aspect to deal with when something goes all pear shaped with a new acquisition.

birdybear Fri 30-Aug-13 09:35:07

Everlong, actually, if you read all her posts she says she has no concerns about anything else, all she talks about is the fleas. It is everyone else dressing concerns about the breeder and other stuff. The op is only concerned about fleas.

prettybird Fri 30-Aug-13 09:23:47

The other thing that surprises me is that you say she is 12 weeks old.

Don't know if it is different for other pedigree breeds, but we've never been allowed to get our Siamese kittens before they are 14 weeks old. Our breeder told us that that was the "rule" for the breed and that she would get into trouble if she gave them to us any earlier.

cozietoesie Fri 30-Aug-13 09:15:09


As above, you need to get the kit to a decent vet to be checked over - for the kitten's sake as much as anything else. Throw yourself on the vet's mercy with the full story and do make certain that they check to see if she's neutered. It will stand out a mile.

SoupDragon Fri 30-Aug-13 08:49:34

I would say the breeder is lying about the fleas.

Which would make me wonder what else she is lying about.

everlong Fri 30-Aug-13 08:45:39

Birdy I take this as the OP being worried about the bigger picture not the actual fleas.

She doesn't really have a clue how the kitten has been raised, what the breeder is really like.

birdybear Fri 30-Aug-13 08:39:55

Ask the vet! Anyway, so what! You seen to be making such a big deal of this. Buy some flea treatment, use it, move on. Why the drama !

everlong Fri 30-Aug-13 08:37:04

Well the kitten has fleas from somewhere and if your cat and dog don't have fleas then it's odds on the kitten didn't pick them up from your house.

You're not getting anywhere with the breeder. Take the kitten to your vet, explain what's been going on and get the kitten checked.

Is she healthy and feeding well otherwise?

colditz Fri 30-Aug-13 08:37:00

I am going to go ut on a limb here, and say that you have never seen THAT kitten before, in pictures or real life, because THAT kitten was picked up at a farm, probably out of a flea infested bed of straw in a rabbit hutch.

Phone the vet she says she took it to. If the vet neutered that kitten, the one you've got, she'll have a shaved patch on her side or tummy. The vet will have noted and maybe treated the fleas.

I don't doubt that a kitten was taken to the vets, and vaccinated, but I do doubt that it was YOUR kitten.

SilverApples Fri 30-Aug-13 08:36:01

It just seems like such a logical course of action, doesn't it colditz?
Instead of relying on the word of a possibly dodgy seller, and the random words of MNetters who haven't seen the kitten in question.
OP, what's the problem?

lljkk Fri 30-Aug-13 08:35:11

She could put any rubbish pictures on her website, they could be a bald-faced lie. Sorry, but can't believe you are still clinging to what's on her website. I could claim to be the Q of England on my website.

Agree with WakeyCakey, broadly.

colditz Fri 30-Aug-13 08:32:51

Which vet? Ask her which vet. I would want to talk to that vet.

SilverApples Fri 30-Aug-13 08:27:27

^ ^
This. Why haven't you had her checked out by a vet yet?

WakeyCakey Fri 30-Aug-13 08:21:52

If personally forget the fleas and be more worried about the neutering and overall kitten health. Can you get her to a vet?

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