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Feeling guilty about wanting a pedigree cat. Any advice?

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FuckNugget Wed 31-Jul-13 21:50:09

I have wanted to get a kitten/cat as a family pet for a long time but only recently been able to do so.

I decided I would get a litter pair from a rescue shelter. I've been looking at a few locally and reading their adoption rules. This has ruled out some places but I have been keeping my eye on the kittens/cats they have available.

However, I have also been googling a lot on cars and kittens and came across an advert for the most beautiful BSH kitten not too far from us. I've areanged to go and see it soon. I know I will fall in love with it and probably buy it.

I feel so guilty for this sad. There are hundreds of cats languishing in shelters across the country and I could have provided a good home to two but instead I'm buying a kitten from a breeder.

Should I cancel going to see the kitten and go ahead with my plan to adopt? Or is it ok to want a pedigree? I won't be breeding from it either, will have the cat neutered as soon as it's old enough.

SilverOldie Fri 02-Aug-13 19:02:26

I've always had rescue cats and could never justify to myself buying from a breeder. BUT, I have always yearned after a korat cat www.cfa.org/Breeds/BreedsKthruR/Korat.aspx

I believe one of my cats may have had some korat in him, grey banded fur and although I've loved each of my cats, he was so affectionate, intelligent and beautiful and I still miss him.

I don't think I will ever weaken but it doesn't stop me wanting.

cozietoesie Fri 02-Aug-13 07:37:03

As I said at the beginning, some of us love the characteristics of a particular breed. For myself, it's Siamese. I was given my first Siamese more years ago than I care to remember and for me they've been friends ever since. Sure I've had other cats - The Lodger, for example, was a wonderful boy who we took off the street. He wasn't a Siamese though - wasn't a shadow to me, a constant flipping pain in the neck companion like Seniorboy currently is. Some breeds of cat are just different.

As with tabulah , I'll probably go for a breed rescue when Seniorboy goes - or find another responsible breeder if there are no rescue cats needing homes. (Getting a cat from a good breeder isn't always that easy, by the way, be your cheque book ever so ready to hand. Took me months (and several interviews) to persuade Oneago's breeder to let me have one of her kits.)

Best of luck with your new kit when she comes.

tabulahrasa Fri 02-Aug-13 01:02:24

Nope dog people can be just as flamey as cat people - I have cats and a dog, lol.

Yes it's great to rescue - but if you think a certain breed is right for you, you can't always find what you're after in a rescue.

The important thing I think is to make sure you're not then becoming part of the problem by giving money to someone who is breeding the wrong way or irresponsibly. Responsible breeders are willing to take pets they've bred back at any point in their life for any reason, because they care what happens to them - that means that hopefully the rescue situation doesn't suffer because of them.

The more people that know how to find a good breeder the better because that makes it harder for people churning them out any old way to make money.

I've got a wee tabby, she's very sweet, but she's not as well suited to me as my Siamese...not because she doesn't have a pedigree, but because she's well, catlike, lol, she goes off doing cat things most of the day, comes home for food and I'm only allowed to stroke her when she decides she wants me to. My Siamese follows me round talking to me all day, ready to drape herself on me at every available opportunity, I like that, clearly I'm needy, lol.

When both my girls are gone, it'd be another Siamese I'd want - and I will try to get a rescue one, but if I can't find one that suits my situation at the time, I'll go to a good breeder.

FuckNugget Fri 02-Aug-13 00:47:53

Beryl, your breeder sounds very responsible. Whilst I struggled with my conscience over this, I wouldn't have given any money to an irresponsible breeder as then I would be supporting their practises.

FuckNugget Fri 02-Aug-13 00:41:26

I agree totally issey. When I began to seriously think about getting a cat as the time is now 'right', I was adamant that I would only get a rescue cat. It was only when I realised that some shelters make it very hard to adopt that I began perusing the local ads online, not with any seriousness though, I definitely didn't want to pay £60-£70 to an irresponsible person who was profiting from their own negligence as a pet owner by not having their pet neutered angry.

It was just this particular kitten that had me smitten and I did that dangerous thing of 'oh, it won't hurt to see if it's still available'. Once the seed was planted though, it started seeming more acceptable. The breeder did say that sometimes she gets kittens that can't be sold for any number of reasons and she'd be happy to let me have one as a companion for the kitten I have bought. Whilst the offer is tempting, I would still really like to adopt a rescue cat. And I can honestly say, both will be loved equally.

It must be so difficult to work in an animal shelter and see the irresponsibility of some people. Just looking through the ads, there are so many people selling young adult cats which is so sad considering how many are in rescues as well sad.

BerylStreep Fri 02-Aug-13 00:33:11

In fairness, the breeder I got mine off clearly was doing it for the love of the breed rather than money. She was adorable, and I got the mummy for free, as she rehouses her queens after only 2 litters as she thinks it is unhealthy for them to have more than that. There is other stuff about her, that is just too identifying, but she is lovely.

issey6cats Fri 02-Aug-13 00:25:01

nugget people care about cats on here and like any subject you will get people who condemm pedigree buying because they see the heartache behind rescue from working with rescue cats, and you will get the people who will only like pedigrees because you almost know what you are getting, pedigrees more predictable, i would give my right arm for a pedigree siamese cat but my budget is way out to afford one, so when blue came into the center at 7 months and he is definitely half siamese, i not only fell in love with him instantly he is probably the nearest i will ever got to my ideal cat

FuckNugget Fri 02-Aug-13 00:09:07

Beryl, in fairness I fully expected a roasting but I think posters have actually been quite kind. I would have taken it on the chin, however, because I actually agree with the reasons for not buying a cat when there are so many waiting adoption. I don't know if I have this wrong, but I don't think buying a pedigree dog as opposed to a mongrel is seen as bad as buying a pedigree cat?

In any event, I'm a total hypocrite as I just today put a deposit down on a BSH grin. Whilst I do feel guilty in many ways for doing this, she is a beautiful and affectionate cat from a responsible breeder and as long as she is loved and well cared for then that is the main thing IMO. I am going to adopt a rescue kitten alongside though if I can find a shelter that will allow it smile.

My grandmother has Burmese cats, they were absolutely lovely. And it's great to hear from someone who is happy with their decision to have pedigree cats flowers.

BerylStreep Thu 01-Aug-13 23:56:29

Hope you have a hard hat.

I got an absolute flaming on here about 2 years ago for (naively) saying I wanted a pedigree cat. Things got a bit heated.

Anyway, I ended up with 2 Burmese - rehomed the mummy, and bought her kitten. They are simply wonderful (well apart from the bird catching, poo wiping, and nail varnish smashing smile).

Go for the cats you want. I have grown up with cats all my life, and my two Burmese are by far the most sociable and affectionate cats we have ever had.

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 23:54:25

Ah, ok. That sounds good. I told cpl that I didn't mind which sex but I shall tell them that a boy would be best.

I can see BSH being the boss, she does a mean grumpy face grin.

issey6cats Thu 01-Aug-13 23:48:19

as tabs said depends on the personality of the cat females are usually the bosses in a house, i have a brother and sister who are 7 ,a boy (the ginger ninja ) who is coming up 6 and the half siamese is two, guess who is boss in our house yes the 3lb girl cos shes the girl in the house, until she went the other ginger girl was the boss see a pattern here, nugget the best combo is being as you are getting a girl kitten ,is a boy kitten would probably be the best option as that way madam will be boss without any work needing doing so she will be happy

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 23:43:39

Oh that sounds promising tahbula. Having never adopted a rescue before, I wasn't sure on how things will be timed but I guess the breeder will be ok to hold on the BSH for me anyway smile.

tabulahrasa Thu 01-Aug-13 23:37:58

They're usually dead adaptable for months, it's usually only once they're proper adults that they don't make friends with other cats as easily.

Oh and which one comes first doesn't matter anything like as much as personalities when they decide which one is in charge.

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 23:31:25

That sounds a good way to do things issey. Cpl do want to do a home check so obviously this will take longer. And there is the chance we won't be approved I suppose depending on how stringent their rules on adoption are. I emailed about the cream kitten today - he is still available but they've asked some more questions (which I expected) and I know they will reject us sad. I shall keep you posted smile.

issey6cats Thu 01-Aug-13 23:21:46

i dont know about cpl but at ours if you come down to the center most of the kittens are available the day you see them, we dont do home checks various reasons why, before anyone jumps in and asks why not, the procedure at ours is we ask questions that are pertinent, we show you suitable kittens (or cats for those not wanting a kitten) and if you like anyone you fill out the adoption forms and can take your cat that day, or some of the kittens have been spayed/ neutered the day before so we keep them for 5 days to make sure they have recovered from thier ops and these can be reserved and we let you know what day they are available that week

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 23:07:13

Grrr! I can't upload a picture. Will try again tomorrow.

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 23:05:53

Thanks issey. How long does the adoption process usually take and would they hold into a kitten so I could time it so they came home the same day? She was quietly hissing at the other kitten from another litter today, I was grin.

issey6cats Thu 01-Aug-13 22:57:38

i would say time it so they both come together that way they will bond pretty quickly, we usually rehome two kittens from same litter if possible if someone wants two, but people have adopted two kittens from different litters who were in at the time and has not been a problem because they went together

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 22:53:27

Love at first sight shuffle. I knew I wouldn't be able to walk away from her if I went to see her but the fact that she is so affectionate just clinched it smile.

Thank you so much issey. I called the local cats protection league today and they are calling back tomorrow to discuss with me. How long can I leave it between getting the two kittens? I'm assuming at some point the first to come home will be the dominant cat? Don't want to leave it so late that they won't get on. Will they get on ok do you think? Sorry for all the questions blush.

I will definitely get in touch if CPL can't help smile.

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 22:49:54

It was l

issey6cats Thu 01-Aug-13 22:43:06

dont feel guilty it was obviously meant to be and glad that she is coming from a responsible breeder, and dont forget to update us on when you get a rescue kitten aswell. dont forget yorkshire cat rescue (hint hint) when you are ready we always have far to many kittens to rehome, they had three moms and 12 kittens dumped in a box over the gate a couple of weeks ago, the center is small (14 pens) and we are a friendly bunch smile

shufflehopstep Thu 01-Aug-13 20:20:57

If it's love, there's not a lot you can do about it wink. I hope you are both very happy together. smile

FuckNugget Thu 01-Aug-13 20:13:41

She is! I didn't want to leave her and she was so comfy sleeping on my hand smile.

Yes, both parents were there and she showed me pics of the grandparents too, all her own cats. She's a serious breeder by all accounts. The paperwork showed 5 generations and there are champions in her bloodline.

The main thing was her lovely temperament and I could see she was very healthy and well handled and looked after so I'm very happy that I have taken a kitten from a reputable breeder.

riojabotherer Thu 01-Aug-13 20:04:36

Also, did you get to see her parents, or at least her mum?

riojabotherer Thu 01-Aug-13 20:03:38

She sounds addictive! Good that she has papers. Surely a pedigree without papers is not a pedigree, but rather a very expensive moggy.

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