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Poorly kitten with cat flu.

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ToffeeWhirl Wed 05-Jun-13 19:27:21

Our six-month-old Balinese kitten has a recurrence of cat flu again sad. He first had it a month ago. This time, he has a high temperature, an eye infection, the sneezes and is sleeping all the time. He is still eating and drinking, thank goodness, but he is very underweight.

If he gets another recurrence, the vet will check for other diseases.

I have come away from the vet with a bagful of medicines and a much depleted bank account.

The vet did reassure me that this wasn't life threatening. We are all besotted with this kitten, particularly my oldest son. The other day, DS1 fell asleep during the day and I found him and the kitten tucked up under the duvet, both heads on the pillow smile.

Has anyone else had a cat with cat flu? If so, did it keep coming back? Any tips?

Also, any tips on telling the breeder would be welcome. I chickened out of telling her the first time round, but I really feel I should this time. However, I don't know what to say without sounding as if I'm asking for a refund or blaming her in some way. Also, I'm not sure what she can do about it if her cats are carriers. Does it mean that she shouldn't be selling kittens, or is this just a risk you take when you buy a cat from a breeder?

Incidentally, the only reason we bought a pedigree was because I am allergic to cats and this was one of the few breeds that don't trigger my allergies. Am not particularly bothered whether I have a moggie or a pedigree, just don't want to spend my days sneezing and wheezing.

MumnGran Fri 07-Jun-13 17:21:17

So pleased for you smile

I highly recommend NutriPlus gel for cats who won't eat. Contains all the necessary nutrients in a tiny amount, which you can wipe onto paws and they wash off. Amazing .....and got one of my girls through a very serious illness.
Available often from vets, over the counter, or see :
(the one offered on amazon doesn't look like the right tube, so I would be wary!)

Hope all goes well.

ToffeeWhirl Fri 07-Jun-13 17:35:04

Oh, thanks for that, MumnGran. That's exactly the sort of thing I've been looking for, but I could only find a vitamin paste. Will google it or ask the vet.

ToffeeWhirl Sat 08-Jun-13 17:52:48

Kitty is currently curled up on his new electric blanket, purring happily. And he has just finished licking vitamin paste off his paws. Thanks for all these useful tips everyone. Together, we can rebuild this kitten!

cozietoesie Sat 08-Jun-13 18:06:19

Certainly can! Thanks for the tip about the Nutriplus, Mum. I think I do all Seniorboy's grooming these days but anythng is worth a try.


out2lunch Sat 08-Jun-13 19:08:35

Ah good. smile

ToffeeWhirl Sat 08-Jun-13 19:24:41

Just realised I didn't thank Melissa for the tip about Olbas oil - so sorry and thank you! I'm going to try the Olbas oil tonight and then, hopefully, it will encourage him to eat more. Am very impressed that you had nine cats with cat flu - and very encouraged that they all recovered.

Mumngran - I used your tip about putting paste on paws with the vitamin paste. Very clever. He licked it all off smile.

cozie - no reply from breeder yet...

cozietoesie Sat 08-Jun-13 20:11:13

Doesn't surprise me at all.

cozietoesie Sat 08-Jun-13 20:15:27

Y'all will have to excuse me for an hour. I need to watch 'Battleship', Haven't seen it for a week.


ToffeeWhirl Sat 08-Jun-13 20:28:41

You think she won't reply? Embarrassed? Guilty? Both?

cozietoesie Sat 08-Jun-13 20:33:53

Nonplussed I would guess. (I only watched the highlights.)

MumnGran Sun 09-Jun-13 11:41:32

I can only speak from personal experience, but a decade or more of phoning breeders to tell them cats had come into rescue offered about a 10% chance of getting a positive response.

That is truly sad, and I hope your breeder falls into that category, but in reality many just don't want to know once their kittens have been sold..... the worst 10% just hang up the phone. Most will talk, but not really want to acknowledge that a problem anything to do with them.

When it comes to telling them they have sold kittens with 'flu, the "uninterested" breeders are likely to be a) worried about what that means for their breeding b) worried that word will get out into the breeding community c) won't want to admit liability in case you want a refund d) consider its nothing to do with them - that's why they provide initial cover through PetPlan. ....or e) and most depressing of all, won't actually give a damn.

A few 'breeders' actually do believe that their tiny kittens have "caught a cold", when they show flu symptoms as babies!!!

I really hope, Toffee, that this will not be your experience .....but if the breeder is helpful and concerned, then you will be one of the luckier people. sad

ToffeeWhirl Sun 09-Jun-13 12:23:03

Oh, that's sad to hear, MumnGran. A friend thinks I should be asking for a refund, but I hadn't intended to do this. She said I had been sold 'shoddy goods', but my kitten is a living creature, not 'goods', and living creatures are unpredictable.

The breeder did provide initial cover through PetPlan, but when the cover came to an end, I changed to a cheaper provider. There is a 14-day waiting period before they will pay for anything and, of course, our kitten got ill then. Now nothing to do with cat flu will be covered. Sod's law.

If the breeder really did know the kitten was ill when she sold him to me, I will find that quite shocking. She knew that we were travelling a long way to get to her and staying overnight (which all cost money) and that we were buying the kitten for my son, who is ill with OCD/anxiety disorder. The last thing he needs is a poorly kitten or, god forbid, a kitten that doesn't survive. He will be distraught if that happens, although I don't now think it will.

Incidentally, DS1 thought kitty had run away yesterday and rang us in a terrible state. He and his grandma, who was with him whilst we were taking our younger son out, couldn't find him in the house, then noticed that the back door had been left open (turned out to have been left open by my younger son's friend, who didn't know that we keep our cat indoors). Eventually, they found kitty hiding under the bed near the open door, trembling. Turns out he is actually terrified of the Big Outdoors.

Kitty's fur looks terribly unkempt this morning sad. However, he has eaten some Applaws and licked vitamin paste off his paws. I have also managed to get the eye drops in (can still see that third eye lid) and given him his antibiotic tablet. He may have gone off me for a while grin.

cozietoesie Sun 09-Jun-13 13:27:47

I think he'll pull through, Toffee. Like Seniorboy he might have some residual effects (eg sneezing, the occasional slightly runny nose etc) - but remember that SB is 18 which is good going for any cat let alone a Siamese. So he sets a precedent.

Keep him real toasty warm with lots of love.

Fingers crossed for you.

ToffeeWhirl Sun 09-Jun-13 16:43:47

Thanks for those encouraging words, cozie. He had been cuddled on DS1's lap for most of the day, with a bowl of cat biscuits and pieces of ham at his side to tempt him. I'm sure the warmth of DS1's lap and the constant stroking and cuddling will be doing him good. And then he has his electric blanket at night, so he's warm then too.

It's amazing that Seniorboy is 18. That's 88 in human years, isn't it? The oldest cat ever recorded was 38, apparently, so you never know...

out2lunch Sun 09-Jun-13 17:07:38

Our cat became ill be soon after we got him.I thought about contacting the breeder but really didn't think it would be worthwhile - I was far too preoccupied with looking after the cat.I think I knew what sort of response I would get too.
I think some of these breeds are very delicate but seem to live to a ripe old age thanks to all the tlc.
I had a rescue half burmese who suffered with hay fever but made it to almost 20. smile

WouldBeHarrietVane Sun 09-Jun-13 17:11:54

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ToffeeWhirl Sun 09-Jun-13 17:14:02

out - it's really cheering me up to hear all these encouraging stories. Thanks.

MumnGran Sun 09-Jun-13 21:09:54

Toffee .... I would hope that the breeder did not sell you a sick kitten! it was probably quite fine before it left, but (as we discussed, with the herpes virus) the stress of moving to the new home is often enough to trigger a bout.

Have nursed lots of rescues through flu .... and with prompt vet treatment, as you did, and TLC they recover well, and carry on doing well for lots of years grin

Your kitten has you, and thats what will make the difference!!

ToffeeWhirl Sun 09-Jun-13 23:20:53

Wouldbe - I must have x-posted with you. Good to hear of another cat living to a ripe old age in spite of early cat flu.

Mum - it's true that our kitten looked very healthy when we collected him. However, the breeder described him as a lap cat and he never seemed to have the energy you would expect from a kitten, so I wonder now if he was not as well as he should have been. You would think the breeder would spot that. Anyway, it's good to know that your rescue kittens have recovered so well and gives me hope.

Actually, I think I see a spark of energy in him tonight. He started exploring the room, then leapt onto my lap and climbed up onto my shoulder, which he hasn't done for ages. Maybe he's turning the corner.

Am taking him back to the vet for a check up on Tuesday.

ZebraOwl Mon 10-Jun-13 01:23:52

Oh poor StracheySnowy ToffeeKitten. Just caught up, am so sorry to hear he's been so poorly.

Glad that you've been able to get lots of help & reassurance from here, especially with the breeder not having responded to you. Ugh.

Am so glad my two are not the only felines in the world that are terrified of Outside. Partly as it reassures me, but also cos the last thing you need is an AWOL kitten.

How's your DS1 doing atm? Hope he's coping okay with his furry little pal being so poorly.

ToffeeWhirl Mon 10-Jun-13 10:32:35

Hi Zebra! Yes, the kitten of countless names is very poorly. He won't eat at all this morning - it really worries me. Have tried him on warmed-up Applaws chicken (usually his favourite), two types of kitten biscuits and pieces of ham. He refuses them all. However, he is sitting on my lap, grooming himself, and I think the grooming must be a good sign. But he is so thin sad.

DS1 is being brilliant at helping me give kitty his meds and spends all day cuddling him. He doesn't know how worried I am about the kitten. He assumes he will be fine, which, I hope, is the case (and I am encouraged by all the reassurance on this thread).

Good news for DS1: his appointment with the CBT therapist has finally come through and starts this week!

<kitty jumps off my lap and goes to his food bowl>

Can anyone make sense of this? Kitty has gone up to his food bowls, sniffed at them, then scratched at the floor around them, like he does in his litter tray - as if he is trying to scratch earth and cover something up.

Oh, good, he's started eating. I don't think he likes the Applaws chicken heated up, actually.

Still no word from the breeder. It's making me angry now. She could be on holiday, I suppose...

Just to reassure you, all my cats have cat flu. I take in waifs and strays, all were symptomatic when I got them.

Eldest cat has runny eyes occasionally but never has a serious recurrence although she does wheeze a bit.

Her 4 yo daughter never shows symptoms.

The other 4 yo almost lost an eye to it he was so bad when I found him, he's never had a recurrence either.

The two youngest were very bad when I took them in, bleeding noses, breathing issues, conjunctivitis. They recovered well and are almost a year old now with no recurrences, one of them has a watery eye occasionally but nothing serious.

They can live a long and healthy life with it in their system so try not to worry about the future too much smile

ToffeeWhirl Mon 10-Jun-13 10:44:08

Summer - that does reassure me. Did the cats all stop eating when they were ill? My kitten is so thin that I can see his bones. I'm frightened he's just going to waste away.

cozietoesie Mon 10-Jun-13 10:46:22

Grooming is a good sign, I reckon - and remember that they're generally a lean breed.

Good news for DS1 also.

Best of luck for this week - and I wouldn't worry about the breeder now. You did your best and if she doesn't respond, so be it.

cozietoesie Mon 10-Jun-13 10:48:12

PS - keep an eye on tray use to see if there's peeing and pooing going on. Getting liquid into him is the main thing even though, like you, I'd be edgy at no noshing.

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