Miniature poodles clipping or Jack Russell

[Fifer2020]

Hello

As I have reduced my working hours i am very keen to now get a puppy. DH retired so between us both there will always someone there. I have had dogs before, border collie, so am happy re training.

I am torn between a JR and miniature poodle. I

having reviewed poodles there coats seem to be a lot of work, i would intend clipping out myself,i do DH hair with clipper and am confident that i could do the poodle, or not ?

Would send to professional a few times a year

Cost would be a factor 're grooming that's why i would do it myself, dog would want for nothing in other areas we are both active walkers

Thoughts welcome

[Stresseddogmum]

We have a miniature schnauzer who has gone to the groomer every 8 weeks from when she was old enough. During lockdown this obviously couldn’t happen so I got clippers and attempted to do it myself. It took a lot of effort to get even a small bit off and ddog was not happy with me doing it. So my experience is that clipping yourself is not as easy as you’d think. Where have you looked for prices as mobile groomers can often be q a bit cheaper than Pets at home etc?

[Dogsarebetterthanpeople]

The jacks I know, they moult like you wouldn’t believe!
I’d go for the poodle

[Dogsarebetterthanpeople]

If you are both active walkers, why not another border collie?

[MissShapesMissStakes]

We just keep our mini poodle cut short. He does to a groomer and she's £35 and just does a short cut all over. In lockdown I had a go and it's definitely do-able as long as you train them to be calm and still.

With a short clip not loads of brushing is needed between

[IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere]

Strangely the long haired JR's moult much less than the smooth ones. I have a long coated dog and I take him to be clipped every spring. He hardly moults at all. I think a natural looking poodle (not a lion clip) is a gorgeous looking dog but way out of my price range. I doubt I will ever own a dog that isn't a JRT!

[Fifer2020]

@Dogsarebetterthanpeople

If you are both active walkers, why not another border collie?

we would both love another border collie however we are now 61 and although active just now we are thinking long term for the dog. Trying to future plan, maybe thats the wrong way and we should choose for now

agggghhhhhhh

so difficult

[tabulahrasa]

61 if you’re currently active and healthy isn’t exactly old... I mean, you’re not suddenly going to age overnight when you hit 65.

Also... tbh, not a huge difference in terms of energy levels between collies and JRT, I mean yes slightly less active, but they’re not exactly lazy.

[tabulahrasa]

Oh also - clipping dogs, much much harder than clipping people.

[Dogsarebetterthanpeople]

we would both love another border collie however we are now 61 and although active just now we are thinking long term for the dog. Trying to future plan, maybe thats the wrong way and we should choose for now

I think that like as @tabulahrasa said, if you are thinking you want something smaller and less active than a border collie now you are older, that’s fine, but a JRT is a poor substitute imo as in my experience they are just as high energy, if not more so!

[Hovverry]

Our dog is half Rough haired JR and has a coat like his JR parent. He doesn’t moult at all. I occasionally comb him but hardly any hair comes out.

[MuchTooTired]

I’d go for the poodle. JR shed hair like crazy, and they are mental dogs! Very strong both physically and in willpower, much as I love my two I won’t be getting another after they’re gone.

[Bergerdog]

What about something like a rough collie or sheltie? Collie ish but without as much drive.

Poodles I do love but they are extremely needy. Coat wise a teddy clip isn’t hard to do if you keep on top of it.

JRT are a complete different dog style to collies, harder in many ways in my opinion.

[Landlubber2019]

Looking for a pup, we discounted Jack Russell as they seem to be a high energy dog packaged small!

[Smileyoriley]

My last JRT was energetic until he died aged 13, but our current one year old JRT is actually fairly calm, loves a walk but in between happy to relax. Neither (short haired) shed much hair at all. We have a collie too who sheds like mad.

[Dontfuckingsaycheese]

JR here (not sure if pure JR or not!) and he doesn't shed. He does need trimming though. I do it myself. He won't let anyone else do it. He doesn't stay still so I just grab at what I can but he looks good. Scruffy suits him!

[Dontfuckingsaycheese]

Cheeky monkey chasing bees.

[Dontfuckingsaycheese]

I think you should also take typical traits of breeds into account for your decision. You're talking two different types here. They's may be similar sizes but that's possibly where similarities end. One's a terrier. Other... Isn't??? Terriers can go selectively deaf when it suits them. As a result sometimes our ddog has 100% recall. But occasionally this drops to 95%. And that's his choice . Most of the time I can call him back with a brief whistle or a word. But others, he's buggered off and come back on his terms. I spent an hour once madly calling and searching for him in the woods before he finally deigned to pop out from the same hole in the fence he'd buggered off through!

[Dontfuckingsaycheese]

And he's a fucking nightmare around sheep and horses.

[Dogsarebetterthanpeople]

think you should also take typical traits of breeds into account for your decision. You're talking two different types here. They's may be similar sizes but that's possibly where similarities end

Quite!
The three breeds mentioned couldn’t be more different.
The first was a herding dog and the two possible seconds are a terrier breed that is still often bred for working ratting and the poodle was a gundog originally

[Fifer2020]

Firstly,

thanks for all the replies

when I had the bc I lived on a farm - not the farmer - arable- so the bc had loads of room as the house was large too. We now live in housing estate and to be honest do not want a large dog like a bc or lab etc again

I am a thinker and planner so will research and research before committing to getting the pup. wont be an impulse buy. aware that no two dogs are the same however traits in breeds are important to recognise



thanks again

[k1233]

Personally I love terriers. I downsized from a staffy (a solid muscular 21kg) to a westie. As the staffy aged he needed to be lifted into the car and I knew I'd struggle to do the same with another elderly staffy. So I looked for a chunky 10kg odd dog, with a square head and stumbled upon westies. He is absolutely everything I wanted, including the westitude - I like a bit of cheekiness in my dogs.

Self grooming - personally I haven't struggled. I've got a cocker spaniel and a westie and groom both. Westie is much easier and quicker, the cocker is very hirsute, it's like shearing a sheep when I clip her head. I've never owned long haired dogs before. There's heaps of videos and books you can get.

I did a blind search on breeds, just typed in solid 10kg dog then looked at all the articles that came up and read breed standards of the ones I liked the look and sound of plus breed specific searches for more info on common traits.

[Fifer2020]

@k1233

Personally I love terriers. I downsized from a staffy (a solid muscular 21kg) to a westie. As the staffy aged he needed to be lifted into the car and I knew I'd struggle to do the same with another elderly staffy. So I looked for a chunky 10kg odd dog, with a square head and stumbled upon westies. He is absolutely everything I wanted, including the westitude - I like a bit of cheekiness in my dogs.

Self grooming - personally I haven't struggled. I've got a cocker spaniel and a westie and groom both. Westie is much easier and quicker, the cocker is very hirsute, it's like shearing a sheep when I clip her head. I've never owned long haired dogs before. There's heaps of videos and books you can get.

I did a blind search on breeds, just typed in solid 10kg dog then looked at all the articles that came up and read breed standards of the ones I liked the look and sound of plus breed specific searches for more info on common traits.

hello

I looked at westies but they seem to be really prone to skin issues ? would want a black one

as I said much research to get the right dog ,

thanks for taking the time to assist , very grateful

[EdwardCullensBiteOnTheSide]

I'm a massive jrt fan, they have such personality and massive hearts, so clever and funny, never a dull moment with a jack in the house! However I agree they do moult terribly, like tiny needles that thread their way into everything. I've never had a poodle, I do know of one that is quite aloof and not very friendly, but that's just one dog.

[VinylDetective]

We had a Scottish terrier who had massive skin issues, he was on year round antihistamines to keep it under control. We now have a JRT, who’s 5kg of sweetness and attitude. She’s just over a year and is the light of my life. The house is covered in JRT glitter (hairs), we just use the Hoover a lot. She gets two long walks a day.

[VinylDetective]

Meant to say Scottish terriers are the black ones.