Wolfdog?

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Yokohamajojo Fri 12-Jun-20 14:36:02

So today on our walk we meet this very cute puppy, 12 wks old, we talked to the owner, a young guy who proudly announced that it was a wolfdog and it had XX % grey wolf in it (sorry can't remember how much he said) anyway it was a timid little thing that looked very much like a husky cross malamute or something.

As we walked away I said to my husband, well that's someone who's been scammed as I can't believe there are many grey wolves breeding in England but maybe I'm wrong, are there wolfhounds as in dogs that actually have grey wolves in them?

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MyBabyIsAFurBaby Fri 12-Jun-20 14:54:05

I just had a search out of interest and this came up:

In the UK, F1 generation Wolfdogs where one parent is a wolf are subject to the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976 and require a licence to own. It is legal to own a Wolfdog as long as they are three generations (F3) away from the original parent wolf.

Maybe his puppy was a far off descendent! They do look like husky x shepherd dogs.

Or maybe you are right and the poor guy has been scammed. Mind you, he would have been daft not to ask for official certificates or something!

vanillandhoney Fri 12-Jun-20 15:15:21

I very much doubt it's a real wolf dog, as they require full licenses in the UK under the dangerous wild animal act.

Lots of people breed husky/GS/malamute type dogs together to create a dog that looks like a wolf, which is probably what this man has.

frostedviolets Fri 12-Jun-20 15:47:22

I imagine it’ll be some sort of husky/malamute/GSD cross.

They go under many names; Tamaskan, Utonagan, Anglo Wulfdog...

Could possibly be a purebred Czechoslovakian Wolfdog or a Saarloos Wolfhound though both of those are very rare breeds so unlikely.

Almost certainly a husky/malamute/GSD cross imo and very unlikely to genuinely have any real wolf content. Or if it does, the percentage will be absolutely minuscule.

Which is a good thing because high percentage wolfdogs from what I’ve heard generally make terrible pets.
They are legal in America but you need a license in the UK

sillysmiles Fri 12-Jun-20 15:49:40

I know this is not the point, but surely breeding a domestic dog with a wild wolf is incredibly risk in terms of the the bitch not being killed at mating?

vanillandhoney Fri 12-Jun-20 15:53:00

There's a fair bit of information here:

wolf.org/wolf-info/basic-wolf-info/wolves-and-humans/wolf-dog-hybrids/

It doesn't say anything about breeding the two being dangerous.

Yokohamajojo Fri 12-Jun-20 16:02:40

Yes I do think it's the case that it is a Husky/Malamute/GSD mix of some sort and it sounds good to say that it has a bit of grey wolf in it, which it may have had a hundred generations back smile it was very cute but not something I would choose as a first dog

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Windyatthebeach Fri 12-Jun-20 16:06:45

We have a Husky. Just one of the wolf like ddogs that really aren't a wolf. Tbh not 100 % like having an average ddog either...
Bet they paid £££ for their imitation wolf. Smile smugly op...

Veterinari Fri 12-Jun-20 16:09:51

It's a dog bred as a penis extension by men seeking to enhance their macho image. The reality is it's much more likely to be reactive and fearful (as these are traits reduced through domestication) , as well as poorly bred/at risk of health problems as it's been bred for appearance and by breeders catering towards a particular market rather than to produce good pets

MiniatureHero Sat 13-Jun-20 09:53:11

They are rare but I think you do get them.

But he could also have been scammed - lots of people claim their dogs are wolf dogs when they’re just malamute / husky / GSD crosses. True wolf dogs look really wolfy- they’re fairly unmistakeable.

frostedviolets Sat 13-Jun-20 11:10:58

True wolf dogs look really wolfy- they’re fairly unmistakeable

Not always
True wolf dogs look really wolfy- they’re fairly unmistakeable

vanillandhoney Sat 13-Jun-20 11:19:15

True wolf dogs look really wolfy- they’re fairly unmistakeable.

They do look wolfy, but a good cross between a GSD and a Husky can look pretty wolf-like as well - there are very, very few of them in the UK (at least, very few legal ones) as you need a license under the Dangerous Animals Act to keep them. That means someone has to come and inspect your house and garden and ensure you have a secure enclosure for them to be kept in.

It's highly unlikely that your average Joe in suburbia has a real wolf-dog.

frostedviolets Sat 13-Jun-20 11:23:41

Would help if I put the link in!

Accidentally copied the PPs comment instead of the link 🤦🏻‍♀️

retrieverman.net/2012/10/07/can-you-tell-a-wolf-hybrid-by-looking-at-it/amp/

Shambolical1 Sat 13-Jun-20 16:14:50

I've only ever met one (genuine) wolf-dog kept as a pet and it was very, very timid. Didn't strike me as a dog that found life as a pet either easy or enjoyable.

Windyatthebeach Sat 13-Jun-20 16:22:30

Me and dh went wolf walking with real wolves. Was amazing! Absolutely nothing like a wolf wanna be!!

Windyatthebeach Sat 13-Jun-20 16:27:50

Pic for evidence!

frostedviolets Sat 13-Jun-20 16:48:09

Are those really wolves windy?
I’ve definately seen GSD/Malamute/husky crosses that look exactly like that

frostedviolets Sat 13-Jun-20 16:52:03

Anglo wulfdogs (husky/malamute/GSD crosses) and Saarloos Wolfhound

Windyatthebeach Sat 13-Jun-20 17:01:24

Real wolves!! A proper 'experience' day out...

ButOneMistressHere Sat 13-Jun-20 17:26:16

sillysmiles

I know this is not the point, but surely breeding a domestic dog with a wild wolf is incredibly risk in terms of the the bitch not being killed at mating?

The bitch will be the wolf - or at least in most cases of wandering pet dogs cross breeding with wild wolves this is the case (obs not in the UK!)

40somethingJBJ Wed 17-Jun-20 14:28:19

My friend has a Czechoslovakian wolf dog which looks very, very wolflike. They’re pretty rare I think, but it could be one of those.

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