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Wolfiefan Tue 31-Dec-19 15:16:34

Vets are telling me puppy doesn’t need a tapeworm wormer (eg panacur) as suggested by breeder at 12 weeks. We will be using nexgard for fleas and they say pups don’t need any additional wormer.
Any experience?

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BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 15:27:43

Wolfie when we registered BiteyDog at 8 weeks old we were just given advocate monthly and drontal every 6 months. When we swopped to Nexgard spectre it just replaced the advocate. I think the breeder used panacur but he would have had his last dose just before coming to us.

We now don't use drontal because it upsets his stomach. Interestingly when we discussed the pros and cons of using drontal the vet asked about what we fed him and said as we didn't feed raw (I know you raw feed) it also reduced the possible need for drontal.

Wolfiefan Tue 31-Dec-19 15:29:21

Thing is breeder had been doing worm counts and giving wormer if needed. Next dose of panacur due weekend and vets say puppies can’t gwt tapeworm so they don’t need it. Why can’t puppies get it? I don’t understand. And yes I raw feed.

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Helenluvsrob Tue 31-Dec-19 15:35:29

Following. Had mixed advice too.
Had either from vet at 8 weeks but told we didn’t need it till maybe 6m as he’s not raw fed and doesn’t scavenge etc.
We use advocate for flea / round worms.

BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 15:36:59

Could you get a worm count yourself and then if it did come back positive then show it the vet to treat?

Or ask (phone) a different vet for clarification if you have more than one at your practice.

Wolfiefan Tue 31-Dec-19 15:58:44

Mine is raw fed Helen
Bitey only managed to speak to receptionist. Sure the vet agreed to it in consultation. We were there an hour and pup couldn’t go on the floor so it was all a bit awkward.
Asked for vet to call. I don’t even know who could do a worm count. What company?? Not sure I fancy posting poo over new year!! Happy 2020. grin

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BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 16:05:54

I have seen companies online where they send you the 'kit' and you send it back.

The only reason I looked at them was because I was going to do one instead of giving BiteyDog the drontal but our vet actually said don't bother given that we treat for the majority of the worms anyway.

iWantToBreakBrie Tue 31-Dec-19 16:39:57

Bobstergirl Tue 31-Dec-19 16:49:16

I recommend - fantastic company easy to do and easy to post honestly and really quick with emailing the results.

They also tell the type of tapeworm so you can specify exact treatment if required.

Bobstergirl Tue 31-Dec-19 17:08:58

Wolfie can you let us know what the vet says when you call back. I find worming such a mindfield and if confuses me a lot!

Bitey If you give Nexguard spectra doesn't that cover everything except tapeworm? Drontal does not protect against tapeworm so why where you considering drontal?

Is the vet saying Wolfie that there is less chance of getting tapeworm if your dog does not have fleas as protected from nexguard?
So I guess that protects against the Dipylidium caninum tapeworm.

But the taenia pisiformis is the "rabbit tapeworm" and I guess could be ingested from raw food (although I thought it was killed by freezing?) or rodents when out walking.

Pondering here, so it is generally roundworm that causes the biggest issue and nexguard will protect against that?

I think it gets more confusing everyday! We need one product or just wormcount and then treat if needed as it is all seems to change so frequently smile

BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 17:15:14

I thought drontal did tapeworm, roundworm as well as a few others.

Off too google.

BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 17:20:20

Google says 'roundworms, tapeworms, hookworms and whipworms'

I am definitely not looking at the images as they are disgusting up close grin

Wolfiefan Tue 31-Dec-19 17:26:03

Call from vet.
I said I wanted some panacur for pup. He said ok.
Panacur does protect against things that nexgard doesn’t.
We won’t use drontal as she’s just a little (over 15kg) baby puppy. grin
It is a minefield and everyone seems to do something different. confused

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BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 17:29:43

Yes I agree it's a minefield.

Maybe it just wasn't the usual thing hence the receptionist not recommending it but vet happy to prescribe if asked.

Bobstergirl Tue 31-Dec-19 17:47:33

Thanks Biteyshark proves I am confused!

I found this which to me is interesting and sets it all out. Interestingly is says panacur does not cover D canis tapeworm - the ones from fleas - but your nexguard will Wolfie, if the article is correct.

fleadtickworm by product

Off to celebrate New Year in a different way to researching worms. New years resolution to get a life smile

BiteyShark Tue 31-Dec-19 17:51:20

* Off to* celebrate New Year in a different way to researching worms.

My google history is somewhat interesting since having a dog and being on mumsnet shockgrin

Wolfiefan Tue 31-Dec-19 18:01:27

Haha. Have a lovely new year. May your 2020 be free of ticks, fleas and worms. grin

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