8 months old and it seems he’s turned deaf. He’s on a long lead now as he seems to think every dog he sees is a long lost relative. Jumping like a crazy loon with treats and exciting toys doesn’t seem to work and even at home he gives me a cursory glance and is off on his way. I could cheerfully send him to doggy boarding school.
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BiteyShark ·
20/07/2019 20:00
Yes 8-9 months of age BiteyDog was at his worst.
At the time I seriously considered paying someone to take him on every walk as he was such an arse.
Sending you lots of 
and 
to get you through this nightmare 
ParmaViolet44 ·
23/07/2019 11:13
Doesn't the long trailing lead drag on the floor though? I've seen them on a couple of dogs in the park and they just seem to get tangled up. Plus one lady's dog dragged it through some long grass and it got covered in poo that some arsehole owner hadn't picked up.
I'm all for trying it, at this point I'll try anything! (Tempted to look for some tranquiliser darts.)
I read that puppy "rebellious stage" can be any time from 6 to 18 months so that will teach me to have smugly thought we might have got away with it! Apparently not 
OP you have my sympathies!
ParmaViolet44 ·
23/07/2019 15:15
Ok I'm sold. I'll be giving that a try.
Fingers crossed they grow through it sooner rather than later. I've been reading up on it and he's definitely showing quite a few of the "rebellious behaviours" that are listed. They say "rebellious" and "challenging". I'm sticking with 'twat' for the time being
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WiggleButt ·
24/07/2019 10:55
WigglePup is 11 months and is back on a trailing lead because he also desperately wants to play with every other dog he sees and his recall goes out of the window. He's on track for his Good Citizen Scheme silver award and is beautifully behaved in a training environment (completely ignores the other dogs) not that you'd bloody know if you saw him on a walk but if we're in the open he's an entirely different beast.
The problem is, he's big (31kg or thereabouts), incredibly quick, and very strong. Generally he's good as gold, we throw the ball around, play chase, and do recall training. If I see him get distracted a tiny tug is normally enough to remind him I exist and he comes running over to play with me. However, yesterday there were two dogs he decided he reaaaaally wanted to play with. I stepped on his lead when he clocked them but he went tearing off and sent me flying, giving me rope burn on my ankle. I yelped which much have startled him and he stopped and started trotting back to me. I picked up his lead to untangle it when he reached me and was sniffing around for his ball, but one of the other dogs barked and he went tearing back off to them while I was holding it. Instinctively my hand tightened (despite knowing that's the worst thing to do!) and now I have friction burns all the way across my palm and fingers.
I think I'm going to trade my nylon one in for a biothane one which should hopefully minimise the risk of it happening again, and there's the added bonus of it being waterproof and not absorbing gunk and water from the ground.
They're great if you use them properly but don't hold it if there's any risk of your dog running. It bloody hurts! 
FoxesAreFabulous ·
26/07/2019 11:09
Alwaysgrey I feel your pain!! We have a miniature poodle (what size is yours? Photo please!!) and he was an absolute arse at that age.....lost all his recall, became selectively deaf and appeared to have forgotten all his training. We honestly felt like we could have sold him to the next passer-by for a fiver - he was a total sod. I don't think it helps that poodles are so clever - as you'll undoubtedly know, they are the second most intelligent breed after collies. What we didn't know until our puppy class trainer told us is that the red ones are the cleverest of the lot and also quite highly-strung!! What colour is yours?
It does get better again - ours is now 3 and is (mostly) a delight to walk and to train - they do need things to get that poodly brain working so you might want to look for some brain games to do at home, if you haven't already. Also - is there something your dog really, really loves? Ours is tennis-ball obsessed and although we have always been careful not to let that develop - so he doesn't often get a call thrown on walks as he'll then bark non-stop if we put it away - a ball was our saviour for recall as he would always come back if we shouted 'ball'
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