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Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 17:57:33

Can anyone advise a good schedule for me?

I have a rescue dog coming up to 10 months. Collie x whippet. Had her for two months so she's still settling in. A few issues (separation anxiety and over excited on lead, working on these) but she's bright and very loving.

I'm home all day every day and she has free reign of downstairs and the garden.

Currently:

7am - up & out of crate for a wee/poo/zoom
7.05am - breakfast (in Kong)
7.20am -9am she happily naps on her bed while I have breakfast, get showered & dressed
9am - 3k outside walk & play/run in garden
10-12noon in her crate to nap/get used to settling herself; she whines.
12.05- lunch (in Kong)
12.25-6pm no set structure
6pm 3k walk
6pm-10pm no set structure
10pm bed in crate (very happily) though if she's hyper/over tired she goes in at 8pm.

I'm exhausted because I'm inputting SO much attention for 10+ hours of the day - not including 2x walks. I'm not getting anything else done. I do training every day with her for simple commands and lots of play, cuddles, enrichment activities...

Is that normal? Should she be sleeping more? Help! I'm knackered!

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BlueMerchant Wed 05-Jun-19 18:05:29

I really don't think a schedule like this is necessary. It's certainly not helping you and your pup will pick up on your stress and exhaustion.
Also can you maintain and stick to a schedule for the rest of this dogs life. A structure ingrained in the pup will make it very difficult if your schedule has to change and pup is expecting their 3k walk at 6 prompt!

Pipandmum Wed 05-Jun-19 18:08:43

Well after her morning walk I’d just leave her to it. It’s nice enough now to leave back door open and let her wander in and out plus leave her crate open so she can go in for a snooze. I certainly didn’t monitor when my dogs had their naps. I put them in crate when I went out and until reliably housetrained they were confined to kitchen/dining/family room area (in fact they weren’t allowed upstairs until my current house - so until they were 4). But I went about my business and pretty much ignored them until afternoon walk. Also I gave them dinner at 4.30 no breakfast or lunch. Evening times I’d cuddle them if sitting watching tv. I think you are fussing too much which won’t help the separation stuff.

Nettleskeins Wed 05-Jun-19 18:21:27

mine is coming up for 7 months and his routine is:

wake 7.00 (this is new, he used to sleep longer sad) toilet, prance around in garden, generally underfoot but not a problem, he chews his antler or plays with a toy rather than getting any attention from us
breakfast if I can stretch it...8am
toilet again briefly (5 mins)
nap for an hour or hopefully two in quiet room from 8.30 if he wont settle by himself in the kitchen(you could use a crate, mine has given up on his...)
walk at 10.30 or 11am for an hour and half (walk itself an hour at most, including stopping briefly perhaps for a coffee in park) need to get to and from park too, sometimes in car, sometimes extra walking
1pm home, lunch for dog and me. After lunch has rest for 2 hours or mooches around, no entertaining or training given. Sometimes I put him in dark room, sometimes he settles himself in kitchen or living room whilst I read/do housework. I pay him no attention.
4-5 pm children return, dog interacts, mooches around, goes in garden, again I do no training or particular attention, just pleasantries really..grin I expect him to do his own thing.
5 pm beginning to need another walk of some kind...could be an errand on the way to the park, or drive to another park but not too long a walk, less than morning walk certainly. A nice walk for me really, sometimes it is just a walk on the pavement for about 1.5 km Just a change of scene for dog and a runaround really. reinforce a bit of trainign whilst in park or walking, ie wait and recall.

Supper after walk at 5-6pm. Leave dog to settle again, if he is being troublesome/demainding I put him in a quiet room sooner. Usually he just mooches around till 7.30pm, when I put him to bed. Then he sleeps till about 8, mooches around after that, watches telly on the sofa, lies on floor. Sometimes we have a bit of zoomies at 6.30, but I think that is mismanagement on my part! Bedtime proper is 10.30 after last pee. But he always has a very good sleep at some point in the evening from 6pm I would say. No training or excitement after 6 in our house...(perhaps a quiet evenign walk in deserted near small park if the day has gone pearshaped, and I could not do walk earlier, but that isn't my usual routine)

I also do a lot of dog interaction, ie I seek out dog playmates in the park, always asking permission first of course. So puppy gets a lot of stimulation that way. Frowned upon by some in the doghouse.

Really I don't do that much playing with the dog, walking is to my mind the play part of the day for him.

Nettleskeins Wed 05-Jun-19 18:24:04

sorry got that wrong...nap from 7-8.30 pm or 7.30 to 9pm, then last pee between 10.30 and 11pm before bedtime proper.

Wolfiefan Wed 05-Jun-19 18:27:44

Why are you shuttting her in her crate for two hours if she whines? That won’t help separation anxiety.
How long are you actually walking? You don’t want to overdo it too soon.

Nettleskeins Wed 05-Jun-19 18:29:54

Yes, I think your dog does need more sleep. But it doesn't have to be in the crate. It could just be flopping down near you, sometimes they aren't used to just tuning out and have to get used to this in a more general settlng, not just in the crate.

Also enrichment can be just being in the house with you, watching you do stuff, having your presence. It doesn't have to be busy busy busy or playing and entertainment. Think toddler...they will find stuff to do by themselves if you can just give them space, you don't have to entertain them every second. Unlike toddlers dogs get an enormous amoutn of enrichment just going for long walks sniffing around etc, running and I don't think they need quite so much verbal interaction as toddlers do!

Walkamileinmyshoesbeforeujudge Wed 05-Jun-19 18:30:49

Sounds a bit regimented tbh. And without pics who is to believe you even have a scrummy dpuppy?

Nettleskeins Wed 05-Jun-19 18:35:46

The dog has had a busy day today and he has literally been asleep on the floor next to me, in various poses, he shifts...since 430pm (i gave him tea early as he had lunch early)I expect him to go on sleeping on and off until 7pm. We might go round the block then for 30 mins. And then no futher entertainment or action required...

BiteyShark Wed 05-Jun-19 18:42:28

We never really had a 'routine' because I didn't actually want a dog that 'expected' something at set times of the day.

I also think it was important that he was happy for me to do stuff round the house so once he was toilet trained I started to let him follow me around whilst I did some chores. Now he sees that I am cleaning and he either goes for a sleep or just sits on the sofa watching me.

So whilst it's good that you are doing walks and training I also think it's important to get them used to settling on their own and for me that means actually doing what you need to do whilst they either watch etc.

Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 19:01:14

Everything I've been told is 'have a routine' and the rescue center said 'she will need structure' and 'have set times for everything.'

She won't do anything alone or settle for 30 seconds, she's counter surfing/chewing skirting boards/climbing on me for attention.

I just need some help.

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BiteyShark Wed 05-Jun-19 19:25:02

You dog is still young and obviously is still settling in.

I really don't like regimented day routines because life isn't a set routine and things will change and I didn't want a dog that got upset because of a small change.

Also beware that you can wind dogs up with too much stimulation and you end up in a vicious circle where you think you need to do more to tire them out when actually you need to do less. If I am running about then he is more unsettled whereas the calmer I am and sit quietly he will calm down as well.

QOD Wed 05-Jun-19 19:31:06

Someone told me when I got my puppy to not be rigid as she has to have someone give her 8yr old dog lunch at 1pm daily or she gets upset
Mine eats evenings really

PeoniesarePink Wed 05-Jun-19 19:34:08

Sounds like a bit too much exercise, at 10 months they are still growing and over exercising can do a lot of damage to their joints. We don't do longer walks until at least 12 months. And stop occupying their time - we've got a 7 month old sprocker pup and she's really chilled most of the time. She loves mooching round the garden, and we swap toys so she doesn't get bored of them. Hiding treats is a good one to occupy her, as she keeps on sniffing to see if she missed any!

Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 19:38:19

Maybe it's over stimulation then? I need a manual. I'm much happier to ditch a routine. My life isn't routine anyway.

I just want to do the right thing! I'm exhausted after another nightmare walk. Barking and lunging at everything.

She did zoomies around the garden when we got back.

I'm sat on the sofa ignoring her hoping she'll settle and she's now barking in my face.

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Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 19:39:57

we've got a 7 month old sprocker pup and she's really chilled most of the time.

Swap.

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BiteyShark Wed 05-Jun-19 19:45:30

Zoomies for us indicated over stimulation.

Even now as an adult if he has been wound up too much he does an adult version of it and then crashes out in a heap.

Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 19:50:27

If she's showing signs of over stimulation is the answer ignoring her more? Much less interaction? Shall I reduce to one walk a day? She's got SO much energy though.

She's still barking/chasing her tail/pacing the room. This is not fun.

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BiteyShark Wed 05-Jun-19 19:56:16

I would do one good walk in the morning then later in the day training or other mental stimulation.

In between try and do calm things. Watch tv or listen to the radio and see if she settles beside you.

Do a chore in one room. Bring her bed into that room and throw a treat on it. If she settles for a short time (even a few minutes) give her a treat and then continue with your chore. Essentially get her used to just being calm around the house.

mumsiedarlingrevolta Wed 05-Jun-19 20:15:09

Hi OP

I have an 11 month old puppy.

we don't use crate any more as really used for toilet training but I know a lot off ppl do. we have a few dog beds throughout house and she tends to settle in one in whatever room I'm in.

we do have fairly set meal times and loosely regular walks. Is your walk on lead or off? Is pup socialising/playing with other dogs?
My pup gets to park where I walk her and immediately looks for her friends. Your pup will still benefit from/need puppy play.

Can you leave door open in good weather so pup can have a bit of freedom?

mumsiedarlingrevolta Wed 05-Jun-19 20:16:23

And my dog walks longer than that (off lead) and it is never enough!!

PeoniesarePink Wed 05-Jun-19 20:18:20

Sorry, I didn't mean that to sound boastful. We've got an older dog, and really overdid it when he was a pup so we learned the hard way. This time, we've stayed really consistent and made a deliberate effort not to keep playing and entertaining as our eldest has got horrendous separation anxiety (he was a 5 month old rescue). We've gone with the ignoring bad behaviour as much as possible and praising the good... so if she's lying quietly while I'm cleaning or something, she gets lots of praise and a treat.

Have you looked online to get some ideas from collie forums - they are very intelligent dogs that need a lot of mental stimulation. I'm on a few spaniel forums and it's been a life saver at times.

Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 20:18:45

Is your walk on lead or off? Is pup socialising/playing with other dogs?

On lead. She has no recall and a huge chase drive. She plays FAR too roughly with other dogs (stamps on them and bites/nips in over excitement) so she can't be trusted to play.

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Happyhound Wed 05-Jun-19 20:21:59

Can you leave door open in good weather so pup can have a bit of freedom?

The back door is permenantly open for her. Even if I'm cold.

I have to follow/supervise as she'll ignore toys and dig up the garden or drag the ivy off the wall and eat it.

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BiteyShark Wed 05-Jun-19 20:23:01

Do you have any secure fields for hire near you?

My cocker sometimes gets wound up after onlead walks because they simply don't stimulate him enough so he has lots of energy he can't release.

Or could you walk somewhere exciting but using a long line so she gets to wander and sniff more but you can still stamp on the line if she tries to run off or doesn't come back.

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