Bad arthritis

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peppapigkeepsthemquiet Wed 05-Sep-18 19:30:27

Any tips for bad arthritis.
We’ve tried so much stuff and nothing is helping. It just seems to be getting much worse, very quickly.
He’s lost 20% of his body weight as advised and is now a healthy weight.
He has youmove every morning.
A magnetic collar.
We’ve tried 2 other tablets which I can’t remember the name of (one began with an A) and they didn’t help.
He has hydrotherapy.
Short walks every day.
Tramadol when he’s really suffering.
I just feel awful that nothing seems to be doing much.
He’s got so much muscle wastage on his back legs that he’s staggering around and slipping and sliding.
Hydro sessions are trying to build muscle, but he can barely walk for a few days after and keeps slipping over.
He’s gone from absolutely fine, to staggering around all in the space of 5 months perhaps.
It’s awful to see.
Any miracle cures?

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peppapigkeepsthemquiet Wed 05-Sep-18 20:04:04

Has anyone tried turmeric?

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fivedogstofeed Wed 05-Sep-18 21:12:28

I tried turmeric and didn't honestly see a difference, though I do know many people who swear by it.
CBD oil made an incredible difference ddog - really amazing to watch. She also has Yumove and does hydro.

Agentornika Wed 05-Sep-18 21:14:44

How old?

peppapigkeepsthemquiet Wed 05-Sep-18 21:33:34

He’s 10.
How do I go about the CBD oil please?

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fivedogstofeed Thu 06-Sep-18 11:08:51

I started with 2 drops of CBD twice a day in her food. It took 3-4 days to start working but the difference was so noticeable. I used the 500 strength to start with, which is low- medium dose so there is room to move to a higher strength if necessary.

this is a great website for information about arthritis in dogs.

fivedogstofeed Thu 06-Sep-18 11:15:53

Also very important if he's sliding around to put down rugs so he's not walking or trying to get up from hard floors.


tabulahrasa Thu 06-Sep-18 11:26:45

Being blunt - if he’s on that much pain medication and it’s not helping... honestly, I don’t think you’re going to find a complementary treatment that’s going to make that much difference.

IvysMum12 Thu 06-Sep-18 15:07:41

A lot of dog owners I know have had excellent results from YuMove.
High quality oils I believe. Vets stock it. You may be able to buy it elsewhere.
I hope your dog is feeling better soon!

Shambolical1 Thu 06-Sep-18 15:21:40

Where (in his body) is the arthritis?

If it's in his spine, hydrotherapy isn't recommended and you may be making things harder for him.

peppapigkeepsthemquiet Thu 06-Sep-18 17:36:46

@fivedogstofeed would you mind recommending me a website for cbd oil. I can only find one uk page and it seems a bit dodgy to me.
We do have a total of 7 rugs downstairs, plus his bed. But there is still obviously places where we don’t have any. He’s much worse on the laminate flooring.
We’ve started heat packs today, so 3 x of warm wheat bags on his joints.
Arthritis is in his hips, so hydro is ok apparently.
It’s just hard to see him so much worse after the hydro sessions, but it’s because his muscles are sore from being worked.

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peppapigkeepsthemquiet Thu 06-Sep-18 17:37:28

I’m wondering whether to ask for x rays too as he’s never been x rayed. Or if there’s no point.

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Ticcinalong Thu 06-Sep-18 17:45:00

Laser therapy is amazing.
Water treadmill hydrotherapy instead of swimming if poss.
If using youmove make sure is the advance 360.
Acupuncture can be very helpful for pain.
Ask a vet Physio for exercises you can do at home to keep his muscles built up.

fivedogstofeed Thu 06-Sep-18 17:47:16

@peppapigkeepsthemquiet I use this brand which I get in a local pharmacy, though you can also order from Amazon or get in most health food shops.

peppapigkeepsthemquiet Thu 06-Sep-18 17:47:56

He does the treadmill hydrotherapy, not swimming, as in his feet never leave the floor, it’s obviously filled with water!
I’ll check out which yumove he has.
I have never heard of laser therapy. Will look it up.

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peppapigkeepsthemquiet Fri 07-Sep-18 09:37:38

Feeling sad today.
He’s so much worse.
He’s struggling to squat to poo so he’s not emptying his bowels properly.
He can’t squat to wee so the wee is squirting over his front legs.
I just don’t understand how he’s gone from absolutely fine 5 months ago (bar a bit lame after a big run) to struggling to even go to the toilet.

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MuddyWellyNelly Fri 07-Sep-18 12:09:59

Perhaps there is more going on. I'm afraid I'd be having a frank conversation with your vet. His quality of life doesn't sound great as he is. sad

It's the absolute pits, but I think you may have to think seriously about how much more is fair to him.

peppapigkeepsthemquiet Fri 07-Sep-18 12:41:15

I genuinely am wondering if it’s arthritis. He’s not stiff, he’s got jelly legs more than anything.
Got an appointment booked for Monday.

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Itchybitsy Fri 07-Sep-18 12:49:43

I think he needs the vet. thanks

Agentornika Fri 07-Sep-18 12:56:54

I don't think I'd be waiting until Monday - can you get an emergency appointment? It could be Cushings?

BiteyShark Fri 07-Sep-18 13:03:33

It doesn't sound good and I would be trying to get the vets to squeeze me in before Monday.

peppapigkeepsthemquiet Fri 07-Sep-18 13:16:16

He’s been given some stronger pain killers that we picked up a while ago.
Spoke to vet over the phone who said that him not squatting is due to arthritis pain, so stronger painkillers have been given so we need to see how he goes.
He’s now on 3 types of pain killer.
He does seem a bit more comfortable though and he did squat a tiny bit when he did a wee a moment ago.

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peppapigkeepsthemquiet Fri 07-Sep-18 13:20:10

I’m genuinely feeling though, that if 3 x pain meds a day are still not helping him to squat etc then I don’t know what the next move would be.
He’s happy enough in himself, he’s waggy when people walk in, he’s eating fine, he’s sleeping through the night etc.
He just really struggles to get up from lying down, like he scrambles with his back legs for a good 10 seconds and his walk is really odd.
His legs cross over themselves and he walks like he’s drunk.
All caused by muscle wastage and arthritis though apparently 🤷‍♀️

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BiteyShark Fri 07-Sep-18 13:23:20

If the vet is upping the pain meds and he is still having problems then honestly I would want a second opinion just in case something else is being missed.

peppapigkeepsthemquiet Fri 07-Sep-18 14:02:54

Yeah I agree.

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