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Where are all the poodles?

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JaimeLannister Sun 22-Apr-18 18:20:01

I regularly see many 'poo' type dogs around especially cockapoos and labradoodles but I rarely see actual poodles. These mixes are coming from somewhere!

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Wolfiefan Sun 22-Apr-18 18:21:04

Puppy farms.

ineedamoreadultieradult Sun 22-Apr-18 18:21:26

Unfortunately probably sat in a puppy farm churning out cockapoo, westiepoos, labradoodles, whateverthehellapoos!

gamerchick Sun 22-Apr-18 18:22:56

Yeah, cooped up in pens pumping out mongrals for people with more money than sense probably.

PoisonousSmurf Sun 22-Apr-18 18:23:35

And people fall for these so called 'designer' dogs. Mongrels all of them!

missbattenburg Sun 22-Apr-18 18:24:41

Another vote for many being kept in a box, producing litter after litter of whatsitpoos...

JaimeLannister Sun 22-Apr-18 18:29:32

I thought that would be the case with some of them but there is such a huge amount of these mixes. 3 cockerpoos in my training class last week. A cavapoo and 2 more cockerpoos on my walk just today. They have overtaken all the labs i used to meet.

I want to assume that people are not that stupid.

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Wolfiefan Sun 22-Apr-18 18:55:47

They are that stupid. Nearly 8 out of 10 puppies sold in this country are from puppy farms.

LEMtheoriginal Sun 22-Apr-18 18:59:07

They've all been cockred sad

HugMeBringItIn Sun 22-Apr-18 19:01:49

I have one! A Standard and my friend has a miniature. She used to also have a Standard until he died.
My neighbour has a toy poodle.
Saw a beautiful silver Standard last summer in the next village so there are some around.

I regularly get asked if mine is a labradoodle but she looks nothing like one!

I do know a lot of people with completely crazy cockerpoos and labradoodles though. I wouldn’t personally have one, much prefer a full Poodle 🐩

tabulahrasa Sun 22-Apr-18 19:41:32

“3 cockerpoos in my training class last week. A cavapoo and 2 more cockerpoos on my walk just today.”

If there’s a lot locally there’s every chance they’re all related... easiest way to make the most money is to have a load of bitches and a male poodle, you don’t need to pay much attention then as they’ll all be whatever the bitch is oddles.

Wolfiefan Sun 22-Apr-18 22:43:03

A actual bona fide poodle is a much more predictable entity. In terms of grooming and training and temperament and health etc.
I don't dislike crosses but you have to be prepared to get the worst of both. And designer crosses? Bred by people to make money and rarely health tests on parents.

fessmess Sun 22-Apr-18 23:21:34

Like this?

FluffyPineapple Mon 23-Apr-18 02:11:58

Nearly 8 out of 10 puppies sold in this country are from puppy farms.

Yep. All breeds

Bubble2bubble Mon 23-Apr-18 05:51:07

This is a question more people should be asking sad

I know one standard poodle and she is fabulous, a real dog person's type of dog.

tabulahrasa Mon 23-Apr-18 07:18:34

“Yep. All breeds”

Well, no... nobody’s farming anything that won’t make money, certain breeds, sure and poodle crosses are attractive because it’s easy to breed them and they cost more than either pedigree breed will get.

BigGreenOlives Mon 23-Apr-18 07:25:48

Someone told me she is going to get a pedigree cavapoo, I asked her how as they aren’t a breed...

Noqonterfy Mon 23-Apr-18 07:29:32

I've got one.

SuburbanRhonda Mon 23-Apr-18 07:30:08

My friend’s assistance dog is a poodle - she is the loveliest, most sweet-natured and intelligent dog I’ve ever met.

A woman down my road has three standard poodles - all apricot.

Wait4nothing Mon 23-Apr-18 07:32:46

We have a gorgeous toy poodle (who is a little bigger than the toy range!) bought from a household with 3 adult dogs (2 poodles and 1 rescue) - saw both (lovely) parents and healthy little puppies. Seller asked us to consider using her for holiday cover if we ever went on holiday instead of kennels (we’ve moved out of the area but use family if we need dog looking after).
In laws also have a lovely toy poodle (quite a bit smaller than ours). Neither will be used for breeding though.
I do worry about the parents of all these little puppies!

japanesegarden Mon 23-Apr-18 07:41:53

I have two. If they are overdue for clipping, people quite often ask me if they are cockerpoos ...
Nothing against doodles, except the horror of where almost all of them come from. My poodle breeder was a hobby breeder who gave me the third degree before letting me have one, taught me how to clip them, and still exchanges Christmas cards with me 11 years later. If I ruled the world there would be no other sort.

FluffyPineapple Mon 23-Apr-18 11:57:16

Well, no... nobody’s farming anything that won’t make money, certain breeds, sure and poodle crosses are attractive because it’s easy to breed them and they cost more than either pedigree breed will get.

Puppy farmers breed all breeds. It's ridiculous to suggest only poodle crosses are from puppy farms and even worse to suggest that ALL poodle crosses are from puppy farms....

If someone wants to pay over the odds for a crossreed that's their decision. Better than paying well over the odds for a squashed face dog that has problems breathing all through it's life.

BTW it's just as easy to breed spaniels, poodles, Labradors and every other "proper" breed 🙄 All puppies are made the same way 😂

Wolfiefan Mon 23-Apr-18 12:42:18

My breed isn't easy. Parents need heart testing. They man even need a c section. And then puppies have to be liver shunt tested and fed carefully to avoid issues. As a giant breed mum can't be left alone with tiny puppies.
Puppy farmers breed ALL breeds. That's true.
I can't believe there's such a thing as a decent poodle cross breeder. Good breeders breed because they want a job to do a particular job or because they want to improve the breed. Not the case in a cockerpoo or labradoodle. But could be the case in working sprockers for instance.

Bubble2bubble Mon 23-Apr-18 12:53:10

...* worse to suggest that ALL poodle crosses are from puppy farms....*
A quick look on any of the free ad sites strongly suggests this to me I'm afraid.

tabulahrasa Mon 23-Apr-18 14:19:43

“Puppy farmers breed all breeds.”

No they don’t, there’s a whole load of breeds that are nowhere near numerous enough to be farmed and a whole load that aren’t popular enough to bother breeding on a large scale, a load where they can’t charge enough to warrant breeding them and larger breeds cost more to keep so less profit in them as well.

“ It's ridiculous to suggest only poodle crosses are from puppy farms and even worse to suggest that ALL poodle crosses are from puppy farms....”

Of course it’s not only poodle crosses, small popular pedigrees are attractive to them too.

But it’s a lot easier to breed crosses because you’re not having to pay attention to who is breeding with who, you don’t need both sexes of the same breed... so that weights it a fair bit.

So with certain breeds and poodle crosses a hell of a lot of them are coming from puppy farms.

“BTW it's just as easy to breed spaniels, poodles, Labradors and every other "proper" breed 🙄 All puppies are made the same way 😂”

Of course it’s not, you’ve got breeds that need human intervention to mate and give birth. (Which yes is ridiculous, but they’re not all equally easy) and giant breeds that are too big to leave with tiny puppies... not much profit if a load of them die.

So yes, some breeds and crosses are way way more likely to come from puppy farms than others.

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