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mumofone77 Mon 09-Oct-17 17:17:00

Considering getting a cavapoo (miniature poodle x cavalier king Charles spaniel) and was wondering if anyone on here has one? If so:
Would you recommend them?
Has your dog had any health issues?
Are they okay being left alone for short periods (up to 4 hours) during the day?
How much exercise do they need?

Any advice gratefully received. Thank you.

Whitney168 Mon 09-Oct-17 17:55:29

Can you make sure you read this thread please, OP:

Cavalier x Poodle pups are very cute, but you will find very few reputable breeders of such crosses. Please make a serious effort to ensure you are not supporting the puppy farm trade.

CornflakeHomunculus Mon 09-Oct-17 18:05:12

When you're looking at CKCS crosses you need be extremely careful to find a breeder who is properly health testing their dogs prior to breeding from them.

Some of the most serious health issues affecting the CKCS as a breed can't reliably be avoided just by crossing

It's absolutely vital that a breeder of CKCS crosses both MRIs their CKCSs to check for signs of Chiari Malformation/Syringomyelia and follows the recommended Mitral Vale Disease breeding protocol. Cases of CM/SM and MVD have been seen in both toy and miniature poodles so it's absolutely not a "safe" cross in terms of guaranteeing avoidance of these conditions, both of which are worryingly prevalent in the CKCS.

There's a number of other health tests which are also necessary: a current BVA eye test for each parent (these should be/should have been repeated annually) as both breeds can suffer from hereditary cataracts, plus DNA tests for (with at least one parent testing clear/being hereditary clear of) Degenerative Myelopathy and Macrothrombocytopenia. The poodle parent should also have been tested for von Willebrand's Disease Type I. This is very commonly skipped by breeders of poodle crosses as it's not present in many other breeds however although rare it is possible for a dog who is a carrier to become symptomatic to a degree. As such the breeder should be keen to know whether they're likely to produce puppies who could potentially have issues with bleeding/blood clotting.

It's not an official screening scheme but both the CKCS can toy/miniature poodle are prone to luxating patella so both parents should have had their knees thoroughly checked out. Epilepsy is another condition that can affect both breeds. There aren't any tests available for this so it's imperative the breeder has thoroughly researched the lines of the dogs they're breeding from to check for any signs it's present there.

There are a number of other DNA tests which become necessary if the breeder is either backcrossing to one or other of the parent breeds or if they're breeding two crosses together. These would be Dry Eye & Curly Coat Syndrome, Episodic Falling Syndrome, Muscular Dystrophy and Phosphofructokinase Deficiency for the CKCS and Progressive Retinal Atrophy (prcd-PRA), Osteochondrodysplasia and Mucopolysaccaridosis for the poodle.

Health testing is really only a single facet of responsible breeding but, particularly when you're looking at a breed (or crosses of a breed) prone to such devastating health problems it's generally the best place to start weeding out those who are cutting corners either intentionally so they can maximise profits or unintentionally because they don't know what they're doing.

As well as the thread Whitney has linked to there's lots of good information about how to find a decent breeder on the Doghouse sticky thread.

Whitney168 Mon 09-Oct-17 18:09:03

As an aside to Cornflake's post, just a little note that if you were to find such a paragon of a Cavalier breeder who had a Poodle cross pup, I would be very suspicious that they were breeding cross-bred litters in between pure-bred litters to evade the KC's welfare restrictions on frequency of litters.. There are not many Cavaliers health tested to this level, and I can't see any reason that they would breed crosses bar that.

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