Studding out our dog

[user1474439326]

Does anyone have any experience of this?
We have a Hungarian vizsla and are just contemplating wether we might like to stud him out, he's such a lovely dog and comes from a good pedigree.
Just looking for advice on processes and any problems encountered.

Thanks

[redpriestandmozart]

Have a read at this...

forum.champdogs.co.uk/topic_show.pl?tid=55104

Then come back and say why you think you should breed from your dog.

[Darklane]

If he's your pet who lives in the house with you & you've no experience of mating season I wouldn't advise it.
Besides which, a good pedigree isn't really enough, lots of pet pedigree dogs have several champions in their line. Most people looking for a stud dog, except for backstreet breeder, want one that has a proven show winning record & has proof of all the relevant health tests for the breed.
The actual mating can be quite tricky, you can't just put them together & hope for the best, a clumsy or inexperienced stud can do irreparable damage to a bitch, especially if it's her first mating. Ideally new young studs are trained with experienced bitches first.

[Darklane]

The linked article is very good & says much that you need to know. Owning a stud dog is a big responsibility in many ways.

[BertrandRussell]

Because we sooooo need more dogs.

[BeBopTalulah]

If you really feel that your dog is exceptional and has something to offer the breed as a whole, I would contact your breed club. Find a 'mentor', visit some breeders.

As pp said, a good pedigree is not enough. He needs to be a proven excellent example of the breed, which means perhaps showing him. You would also have to vet him carefully and find out if there are any specific genetic issues you should be checking for.

I'm not saying for one minute that you don't have an amazing dog, but in terms of breeding him, prove it.

[Thattimeofyearagain]

Why stud him? Honestly, is it for the money? Do you want a pup from him ?

[WaitrosePigeon]

Why though?

[ExitPursuedBySpartacus]

Why?

[Costacoffeeplease]

Yep, why on earth would you?

[KingJoffreysRestingCuntface]

No. Wait for him to meet someone special.

[MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig]

Stud dogs are usually show or field champions with several champions in their lineage. Aside from having no reason to stud him - as people have said, mere pedigree is not enough - I think you'd struggle to find anyone that wanted to use him.

[Shriek]

Why?
What experience do you have?
Honestly? Studding a dog is not normally done this way unless under the umbrella and responsibility of the breeder because of having seen something worth breeding for and already having lists of good homes waiting for pups to go to

Do you know the risks?
The health of your dog in terms of breed health scanning?
If your ddog beautiful as he is is KC registered its very unlikely you are free to nreed from him as he is most likely endorsed against furthet progeny so pups would not be pedigree anymore.
Again, why? There is no shortage of good vizla progeny out there and how would you keep track of unscrupulous bitch owners and poor rwsiltant pups?
Its hard enough having responsibilityfor having a breeding bitch to be as sure ad you can about surety of good life for all pups but with a stud boy you lose that but still have the worry!

[Meadows76]

Is your dog a pet?

[Bertucci]

Our breeder was emphatic that breeding from our pedigree dog would be a bad thing and she put a restriction on breeding from him (not sure how that works).

We had no intention of doing so and had him done as soon as advisable. He has 4 champions in his lineage, but there's more to it than that and I would rather leave it to the experts.

[Shriek]

Whilst your on...can you explain a mystery to me. Is the number in your user name significant somehow or to make it difficult to trace, etc, or some other reason?

I jus always wonder generally, not specifically to you

[BertrandRussell]

"Why stud him? Honestly, is it for the money? Do you want a pup from him ?"

Money. Why else? People with bitches sometimes have ridiculous ideas about their dog "experiencing motherhood" and bullshit like that. Or want to have a litter of puppies st home. Both vaguely understandable- if incredibly stupid. But studding a dog? Can't be anything but money. Disgusting.

[Bubble2bubble]

Yes, I'm quite sure someone will give you money to use your lovely dog as a stud.
What do you think will happen to the puppies?

[YouHadMeAtCake]

I didn't realize there was a shortage of dogs! Fucking back yard breeders make me sick. Get your dog fixed and don't be so greedy and ignorant. Jesus wept.

[YouHadMeAtCake]

Oh and get a proper name while you're thinking about how and your idea is.

[YouHadMeAtCake]

*bad

[user1474439326]

Thanks to those of you that have been helpful. The link was very useful.

The number was just allocated when I signed up to mumsnet I've no idea how to even change it to a username.

[WaitrosePigeon]

Have you decided not to stud your dog out now?

[Thattimeofyearagain]

In fact I'm firmly in the castrate camp.

[pigsDOfly]

This is such a strange idea to me. You've got a pet dog, you got him to be a pet, why would you even consider studding him out?

I met someone in the park the other day with a young bitch, about 16 weeks old if I remember correctly, first dog, small breed, supposed to be the same breed as my dog and yes, she looked vaguely like the breed but was already the same size as my 5 year old dog and there were too many differences to believe she was actually what her breeder claimed - obvious puppy farm.

Anyway, we got chatting and he said they were thinking they'd let her have one litter.

Resisted the urge to say what I really thought but pointed some of the potential problems, not least is the very really danger of losing his pet if she were to die of birth complications.

I hope some of my message got through, but it does really make me wonder why so many people think breeding from their dogs whether male or female is a good idea. In the young man in the park's case I think it was ignorance and the hope of making a bit of money out of his dog.

Be interested to know why you think it's a good idea OP?

[Bubble2bubble]

Sadly I meet people like this all the time. I especially remember a long conversation with a lab owner about her 18month old's elbow displasia, which led onto the reason he wasn't castrated being that they wanted to use him as a stud bangs head off wall