Schnoodle breeders

[Louindevon]

We would like to get a Schnoodle puppy. Is anyone able to recommend a breeder from personal experience please? Also, what to look for when choosing one?

Many thanks!

[ScrotesOnFire]

Schnoodle puppy

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Poodle puppy

[ScrotesOnFire]

Forgive me, but, why not just get a poodle...?
They look almost exactly the same!
You know what temperament to expect.
And it's a damn site easier to find a good breeder.
Cheaper too.

Just to prove my point further...

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Schnoodle adult

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Poodle adult (unclipped)

[marmiteloversunite]

You are very brave to ask that question on mumsnet!! You will probably not get much help but will get told a lot of reasons why not to buy one. Good luck!

[needastrongone]

What is a Schnoodle?

[BombadierFritz]

Why not just get either a schnauzer and not get it clipped into the traditional cut, or get a poodle? Is there a reason for wanting a cross? Usually the poodle x is for the hypoallergenic non shedding but a schnauzer is anyway

[Louindevon]

Why would I be brave to ask for advice and why am I wrong for wanting something that some other people don't?

I asked a specific question about breeders, not a query about Schnoodles as a X breed and why I would want one.

It would be very helpful to hear from people who have bought a Schnoodle, and unless you have, I'd rather not hear your opinion (I'm past worrying about what other people think, life is too short).

Many thanks

[Wolfiefan]

The trouble is that people may have had good experience with this cross breed BUT generally non pedigree breeders don't do necessary health checks before breeding.
And it is a cross. You can't guarantee what characteristics you will get from each breed.
And I would guess very likely end up with a pup from a puppy farm.
But hey if you don't want my opinion

[ScrotesOnFire]

Because generally, people who breed mixed breed adults and give the puppies stupid names are in it for one thing. Money.

Sometimes they look after the breeding bitches well but more often than not they are puppy farmers who tend to keep the mum dogs in very poor conditions, overbred then disposed of.
The pups themselves can be underage, often have worms or fleas, often unwell.

They generally don't health test because it's VERY expensive, each breed has its own set of inherited diseases it is prone to and each breeding adult should have the necessary tests like heart scans, Dna samples, hip and elbow scans etc.
When this isn't done, a puppy appears healthy, then, in later life, it suddenly comes down with disease - sometimes so crippling that it needs to be euthanised at a young age.

If your unlucky enough to get a puppy that later goes blind at just a few years old or loses the use of its legs or any of the other myriad of diseases, good luck getting your money back off these people.

The personality isn't always what you expect, they can be full on poodle or full on schnauzer or a mix.

They are extremely expensive too.

It's much better to get either a poodle or a schnauzer from a proper breeder who health tests thus guaranteeing your puppy won't develop a genetic, crippling disease, good breeders are always there to offer advice too which can be invaluable.

[BombadierFritz]

Sigh
Ok
Bet you just like the name then

[ScrotesOnFire]

Also, breeders who are in it for the money don't give any thought to stable temperament which is really important.

Temperament is largely inherited - a nervous aggressive bitch will produce nervous puppies that managed incorrectly could become aggressive.

I VERY much doubt you will be able to find a Schnoodle breeder that has done ALL the required tests for the poodle parent and ALL the required tests for the shnauzer parent with documents to prove it, that has bred for sturdy temperament and is not a puppy farmer.

[BombadierFritz]

I havent heard of any reputable breeders of schnoodles tbh. Be interesting to see what experiences others have outside of puppy farms

[TrionicLettuce]

Just to add to all the excellent points made so far it's important to look for a breeder (whatever breed or cross you're looking for) that understands conformation and is purposefully breeding for well put together dogs.

DDog2 is a medium-sized, lurcher-ish mongrel of completely unknown heritage. She's a lovely girl but unfortunately has really crap conformation, especially her back end. Her poor conformation is likely to have been highly contributory to her developing arthritis and needing to be put onto daily pain medication at only 7 years old, no age at all for dog of her size

Incidentally she also developed hereditary cataracts and needed surgery to correct them. It cost £5000, she's still only got ok-ish vision and she's at high risk of further eye problems as she ages.

[georgedawes]

The odd thing is it'll probably be cheaper to buy a poodle or schnauzer pure bred puppy! With health tests too.

[FoolMe]

You won't find a reputable breeder...There's no reason to breed them except for the money

[Deadnettle]

The odd thing is it'll probably be cheaper to buy a poodle or schnauzer pure bred puppy! With health tests too.

I have a pure bred, health tested poodle pup and I paid between £250 and £550 less than every poodle cross owner I've asked did for their cross breed.

Op I know a schnoodle and it looks just like a poodle but with a more schnauzer like coat. It doesn't have the best temperament and I believe it has some ongoing health issue. It's not a dog I would willing own.

[ADishBestEatenCold]

I've said this before ... but it clearly needs said again

don't doodle with a poodle

[BranstonPickleandPeanutButter]

I have a health tested, show breeder's mini schnauzer pup (4 now). We looked at poodles too... why on earth would you not go with one or the other?

Ours is a gorgeous, placid, friendly family dog but we chose carefully... well as best as we could.

[BranstonPickleandPeanutButter]

So many typos but I'm shattered and reading in bed with a phone that hates me.

[exLtEveDallas]

Schnoodles are a popular 'designer' breed. Unfortunately, this popularity has led to many Schnoodles being bred in puppy mills and sold online. Any dog exposed to puppy mill abuse has the potential for behavioral problems. If a dog owner is unable or unwilling to work with the dog to improve a behavioral problem, the dog often ends up in a rescue centre. Any dog that is not perfect looks wise is likely to be dumped on the closest rescue (if lucky) or killed by the breeder (if not).

[PirateSmile]

don't doodle with a poodle

I don't know anything about Snoodles but we have a Labradoodle and she is the best dog ever. We got her from a reputable source (lab breeder), she had all her health checks and came with no promises about her coat etc. We met her mother and grandmother.

[tabulahrasa]

"We got her from a reputable source (lab breeder), she had all her health checks"

The health tests mentioned are not health checks on a puppy, they're specialised tests that can only be done on the parents.

Also, the most common reason breeders who normally breed one breed also have crosses is because as those litters won't be KC registered they can get round the rules they have about breeding bitches too often and too many times.

[PirateSmile]

The checks had been done on the parents. It was the first labradoodle litter and I know for a fact there wasn't another litter in the following years.