So we're getting a 'Vizslador' puppy. SOS.(71 Posts)
Any advice on this crazy decision?
I am terribly excited to meet him in 5 weeks. Dad is a vizla. Mum is a chocolate lab. Of course we're counting down the days...it's the 4th baby I wanted but won't be having. I know it will be so hard and I am bracing myself for moments of despair and utter exhaustion.
But can anyone in the know advise me about vizsladors?
I don't know anything about vizladors, we got a bog standard cocker spaniel, but I do understand about getting the 4th baby you can't have!
That was my decision and we adore her. I have never had a dog so it's all completely new. I heard all the horror stories about a puppy being more work then a baby but I think I had exceptionally hard babies because the dog really isn't much work at all. My ds has been very ill and off school these last two months, so not exactly ideal circumstances, and still I don't find the dog too much work. She is lovely.
First of all I think you will get a better reaction on MN if you refer to.your pup as a VizslaXLab rather than a Vizslador. I don't think you can say for sure what the character of crossing two quite different breeds will turn out like, but most dogs are nice in my opinion. My advice is that even though my dog is my baby, I remember she is a dog and not a human. Dogs are wonderful, but they have different needs to people in some ways.
When buying a cross breed you need to ensure that both parents have had all the necessary health checks that they would need for their breed , being a cross breed doesn't eliminate health risks . Why have you decided on this cross rather than just getting a lab or a vizla ? Like the pp I didn't find our puppy hard work at all ,but then I never found babies hard either - 4 horses / ponies on DIY livery stabled at night all year is hard but does train you so most other commitments you make seem easy !
not sure why you would buy a xbreed when there is far better guarantee of health and temperament from a purebreed, known line. Whats the point of x-ing some of these breeds.... trends/popularity/latest fads in animals i know thats not a popular opinion for those with faddy animals, but this fad breeding isn't in the best interests of ddogs at all, and the puppy farms are having an absolute field day with it.
I don't know with two working breeds crossed what you would get in terms of their key traits, the breeder should be telling you this, they should be the expert in what they're breeding, and be very keen to help you for the benefit of re-settling the dpup.
One vizlador would, i imagine, be completely different from another in looks and temperament, so difficult to tell. You only have to look around at the labradoodles to see the different combo's that can arise.
dpups in general, can be intense to start with, i would advise concentrating on getting through the first days/nights, to have the dpup early on in the day so it can have a full day of eating/sleeping, finding its way around and having already slept in 'its place' wherever that is, before settling downn for its first night alone. Plan where it will sleep/eat - prepare for chewing and toilet training accidents and to be there all the time to lift out upon waking, after eating and regularly in between.. Its not hard, just to give the dpup a fair chance to be around for them and focussed on helping them to please you, which is all a dpup wants to do.
its time consuming, being available and focussed on their needs, but not 'hard'. gundogs, well, labs, snap and mouthe A LOT! watch out toddlers, young children and do not leave unsupervised.
I've heard many say that they never realised what hard work dpups are, had they known, etc. but that depends on lots of things, and you are preparing, so this will make the transition much easier all round.
Very jealous of exciting dpuppy prospect! will you post pics to show us when it arrives?
I've got a viszla x Weimaraner. He's quite "viszla-y" in nature so clingy, quick witted, learns fast and doesn't like to be alone. Mind you, Weims are like this to lol. Labs are a bit steadier and less reactive so you may get a less "sharp" dog, but unlikely to be very calm. Will be very active either way and probably a very nice looking dog. Good luck!
Visla x Labrador. No one can advise you as he could turn out like either parent. Vislas are not a good choice for a novice owner.
Both are gun dogs. They have specific needs. They are high energy and need to work.
And in the mean time thousands of dogs in rescue centres.
"Vizla Lab mix" brings up lots of results.
I would imagine a cross between those breeds to be both lively and quite strong, so you'll need patience, boundaries and training
It sounds like a weapon that Darth Vader might use.
My parents have one, she's 10 months old and beautiful but very hard work. She's very active and needs lots of attention. She's also very naughty but so loving.
I have a 10 month DS (just happened to be born on the same day!) And she is great with him, so gentle but she can be very boisterous with us.
The first few months were very difficult, and she's been very hard work but it's all starting to pay off now.
She's happiest sitting on my dad's lap having cuddles or in the garden chewing on a bone!
I say forewarned is forearmed... she is a lovely dog, but not easy to begin with
I've read wonderful things about this mix. There was an article about them being trained as sniffer / drug dogs for police unit, saying the vizla traits ...being keen to find things/smell/intelligence coupled with the good nature /temperament of the labs made them the perfect dogs for the job.
Of course that says nothing about being a family dog, but I fell in love with them a little too. I'd love to own one, but we are not a hugely active family who love long walks regardless of the weather. So we have cats
OP. What is the reason for the litter and have the relevant health checks been done for both parents?
This will be a very active dog, both breeds take a long time to mature, so you will have a 'puppy' for a couple of years. And need mental stimulation too.
You ok with 2 long walks a day? Not a goady question, I have a breed that needs this, and that's fine for us, but can also be a pain too.
I was just thinking about what I posted. I don't want to give the impression that puppies, especially gun dogs, are easy, because they are not!
My dog does requite a lot of attention, regular walks (which we do anyway so no actual lifestyle change for us), and lots of playing with.
Also it took me ages to toilet train her, but that could be because I have never toilet trained a dog before. She was harder then potty training my three children.
As the owner of a 6 year old vizslador I would say that given time and patience these are great dogs. Our Vizslador has a wonderful nature and thinks he is a 4th child. He is gentle and loyal and loves the rough and tumble of family life. He did need a lot of exercise as a younger dog, perfect for getting the children off the sofa as we went for long walks every weekend so he could socialise with other dogs and develop the good manners he now has. I would recommend puppy classes with a good instructor, we did 2 sets to get the ground rules in place and her advice was invaluable. Easy to toilet train, like a toddler, frequent trips out to the loo and rewards for doing it in the right place. I use a halti headcollar (or similar) as I have a bad back and it stops him pulling on the lead. They are clever dogs - he 'talks' a lot, and can open doors, also sensitive so may not like being left alone for long periods and may prefer a dog minder to a kennels if you go away. I hope you enjoy your Vizslador.
I've read wonderful things about this mix. There was an article about them being trained as sniffer / drug dogs for police unit, saying the vizla traits ...being keen to find things/smell/intelligence coupled with the good nature /temperament of the labs made them the perfect dogs for the job So they are predictable enough for the police force, but not for the pedants of Mumsnet?!
OP, you will get some very negative comments about hybrid breeds on here. We have two hybrid breeds (not yours) and they are both great dogs. Good luck - sounds lovely.
Is OP going to dare to come back, either to say she's checked the breeder out, seen both parents, followed up previous litters, knows them personally, seen appropriate health check certificates for both parents?
Or to say actually she doesn't have a clue and is going for something that looks pretty and has a fancy name?
We walk a lot of gun dogs with my dogwalking agency, we're well known locally for being able to handle bigger and more active breeds. Nearly half our clients are Labradors, with various spaniels, retrievers and pointers making up a good portion of the rest.
The Labs are largely wonderful family dogs, although of course every one is different. There is a substantial minority of twit Labs. There is a distressingly high incidence of genetic arthritis type problems, a hip and other joint score is a must when choosing a pup.
All five Vizlas are bonkers. Nice bonkers, ie not vicious or anything. But very very high energy, silly, destructive in the sense of chewing and scrabbling.
Vizlas are very pretty and have undoubtedly suffered from the 101 Dalmatians effect, when dodgy breeders realise there's a market for a breed and produce too many without careful consideration for choice of sire and dam and for the health of the mother.
OP I would think long and hard and double and triple check the credentials of your pup's breeder.
so what do you think are the good reasons for choosing this x?
and which traits are you looking for out of this x? (two very different breeds)
and how do you know which you'll get? and what you'll cope with?
did the breeder ask you any questions like this, and could you answer any of them?
the clue is in the heading 'sos'??? and why do you ask now what to know about vizladors?
Are you owning up here to having committed to a dpup, a real live animal, that you know nothing about????
Just noticed your message and am desperate to own a vizslador puppy. i don't suppose you have the name of a breeder or know of any for sale???
Sorry for the intrusion
look forward to hearing from you
I am laughing at your post. I also have three children and wanted number four which was a no win situation with my husband. It's taken years of pleading, arguing, being nice, crying... and finally I was given a collar and lead for Christmas!
We now have Roscoe, our much loved 12 week old "vizslador" pup. I picked him up on the 22 Jan, and we haven't looked back. Am wondering how your pup is doing?
All the posts are right, it is full on but we were ready for it. After three weeks he is doing his business outside and seems pretty smart.
He was the pup that looked a bit more lab like so my husband said, lets get that one, he may be calmer!
I have had puppies before, and have never had one so cuddly. He seems quite switched on to training, which the kids love.
I am typing with him snoozing on the sofa next to me on his blanket.... Yes, the sofa! I've waited too long to have him too far away.
Best of luck with your pup, would love to hear how it's going. Wouldn't it be strange if they were siblings??? The timiings seem right
We found Roscoe on Pets4Homes. Breeders were in Wales. Nice people, lots of dogs. Canning's K9s. His mom is a choc lab and dad is a vizsla.
I think it's a great mix. Yell if you have any questions.
I'm so glad I came back to this thread. There are so many kind and lovely replies. Thank you! I admit, I was a bit scared off by some of the more blunt (but honest) posters.
I am reactivating this thread just to update you all on our 5 month old pup.
I'll put it simply. He is the best thing that's happened to me in a long time... kids aside of course. It's just been absolutely fantastic. I have no words. What a dog... what a x breed. Labs and Vizslas independently are great breeds. The two combined is just stellar. Maybe we just got lucky. It's been hard. But I knew it would be full on and like having a baby all over again.
We have a long school run so our dog gets a minimum of 3 hours exercise a day. I think this has been key. We live in a very dog friendly place but we also live a dog friendly lifestyle (dog is never alone, loads of green space, lots of love from the family).
Buttonthief I am wondering... Sian in Wales??? The timing certainly is right. November 24th is the D.O.B. We met our pup's sister at puppy class. That's been one of the loveliest experiences ever.
Are you saying you're exercising i.e. walking your 5 month old puppy for 3 hours a day Vocational? If so you are exercising him way too much.
At that age he should be getting roughly 5 minutes walking for each month of his life up to twice a day. Any more than that and you could be setting up problems for him in later life.
Sorry if I've misunderstood.
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