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Tootyfilou Wed 09-Jul-14 13:35:26

We lost our darling dog in Febuary.he was only 8 and his death was sudden and devastating.
We are all still heartbroken.
We also have his half brother who is 4 years younger, they had a fantastic relationship and he obviously misses him a great deal.
My husbabd is very keen to get another dog.
He does the majority of the dog walking and is a brilliant owner... Also never asks for anything,so I want him to have this Iyswim.
I also think it will be great for Dd2 to have a companion, and loved being a 2 dog houshold.

The oerson we had the dogs from is no longer breeding. She was a long established and highly thought after breeder, and ideally we would have loved another dog from her.

Our dogs sire( keeping up!) breeder has just announced a litter. The mother is a sister to our dogs father. i emailed the breeder telling her about DD1 and that we were experienced owners that loved the breed .. Poured my heart out a bit. I have received a very cold reply and its put me off buying a puppy from her! I know that its probably a bit ridiculous. How would you feel? And would it put you off? Or am I being silly?

villagecorner Wed 09-Jul-14 15:07:05

Sorry to hear about the loss of your dog.

I'd be more put off by the fact your dog died at quite a young age. I can't help but wonder whether it would be a wise choice to buy from the same breeding line again but I suppose these things do happen sometimes because of bad luck.

I'm afraid that the breeder is running a business activity, does not know you and won't feel your loss in the same way. I assume that all she is concerned about is whether you can offer a puppy a good home and pay her fees. What did her email actually say? I wouldn't be put off just yet but if upon speaking to her or meeting her you feel uneasy then don't hesitate to walk away.

Tootyfilou Wed 09-Jul-14 15:23:50

I take your point about the longlevity. I did question if there was a High incidence of cancer in her line.
Unfortunately the breed have a high incidence of cancer, although the particular tumour that my dog had was quite rare in that breed.
I know she would not be affected by my dogs death, but I think I would have replied in a slightyl warmer tone. I do think I am being a bit sensitive perhaps. Thank you for your condolences.

mistlethrush Wed 09-Jul-14 15:26:22

This is the person who you really would want to be able to turn for advice and guidance (and assistance if things went wrong) - I know that you don't expect to need any of this, but it still should be there. This person doesn't sound as though they would be able to offer you that.

Tootyfilou Wed 09-Jul-14 15:49:40

Yes thats the sirt of thing that bothers me.
We are experienced owners, but you never know when you need advice.
The people we have bought previous dogs from have been supportive and kind. When I phoned and told the breeder about D dogs death she was sobbing!
I have imerssed myself in the doggy world enough to know that some breeders/owners are quite unsentimental.
Its just I am not like that at all!!

Tootyfilou Wed 09-Jul-14 15:51:19

Sorry for mistakes on phone in work

CastilianHhhhidalgo Wed 09-Jul-14 15:59:12

First of all, I'm sorry for your loss.

For me it would depend somewhat on the degree of coldness in the reply.

It's not unusual for breeders to be rather brusque on initial contact, especially if it's by email so if that were the case I would persevere.

Obviously I've no idea of the actual content of the reply from them so I could be completely wrong (and please don't be offended) but my first thought was whether they're possibly concerned you're rushing into getting another dog as a replacement. I'm not suggesting for a minute that's what you're doing but I'm wondering if it's at all possible they could have read that into your initial email?

Tootyfilou Wed 09-Jul-14 16:30:19

I am not in the least bit offended, just grateful that people arr replying to my slightly deranged post grin

I am undoubtably still grieving and a part of me still does not want a dog yet. But summer is a good time for us to have a pup ( had puppies in the winter and its much harder) I know I will love whatever dog we have snd welcome it into our lives, it just seems as though we should not be in this position .
Thanks for all replies, I am quite a normal person but slightly dog obsessed ��

GobblersKnob Wed 09-Jul-14 19:47:23

I would want to actually talk to them if possible, things can come across unintentionally badly when written down.

The first time I contacted my dogs breeder enquiring about puppies I got quite a curt reply and a request to phone get at a time that was convenient to her, when I did we were on the phone for nearly two hours grin

CastilianHhhhidalgo Wed 09-Jul-14 20:34:15

When DH first rang the breeder of our boys she was very reserved, almost suspicious, and we were both thoroughly grilled before we were allowed anywhere near the litter she had at the time. It was the first time we'd been to a breeder (previous dogs had been rescues) and it was rather daunting.

Once we were deemed suitable she turned out to be lovely and we're good friends with her now grin

mrslaughan Wed 09-Jul-14 22:03:12

Can you ask the breeder of your dog for a recommendation?

mrslaughan Wed 09-Jul-14 22:04:33

I think the coolness is odd, since (if I am following right), your original dog is a reasonably close relative of her dogs.......

Tootyfilou Fri 11-Jul-14 12:20:08

Hi just thought I would update the thread. I spoke to the breeder last night and she was fine. A little reserved initially, but obviously cares a great deal about her dogs and wants them to go to the right homes.
We are going to visit when the pups are 4 weeks old and can choose one at 6 weeks.
Not that I am the least bit woo, but the puppies were born on Ddog 1 birthday.

Adarajames Fri 11-Jul-14 21:02:43

too many dogs being breed, look in rescues first, even pedigrees ending up on rescues these days!

SistersOfPercy Fri 11-Jul-14 23:55:13

I lost my very dear Scottie at just 9 from a condition that could have possibly come down in the breed line. So terrified of losing another Scott to the same horrible condition we traveled 300 miles to collect our new boy, and then say and studied his pedigree and cross referenced it with ddogs to make 100% certain there was no match.

Our little man fought so bravely and defied the vets to watch him through that was terrible and I wanted to everything in power to make sure didn't happen again.

Tootyfilou Sat 12-Jul-14 14:21:29

So sorry for your loss Sisters. It is totally devastating to watch your beloved companion suffer.
We have looked into the breeder as carefully as we can. As I mentioned this breed is prone to cancers, although our other dogs have lived to a ripe old age.
We were very concientous about diet, exercise ... It seems so unfair. He was a beautifully fit active dog .

Adara, I agree there are far too many dogs being bred.
However, I explained my reasons for wanting a puppy.

SistersOfPercy Sat 12-Jul-14 15:16:36

Tooty, if cancer is in the breed then I guess you can look at it as a risk from whichever breeder you choose. In Jacks case he had something called 'copper storage syndrome' which is more often found in Bedlingtons I believe. It's usually passed down the line and though I could never say with any certainty it was in his case it was enough of a risk for me not to go back to the breeder.

Take comfort from the fact it was quick Tooty, I lost my Westie too last year and that was very quick indeed, a matter of hours from him being his usual self (albeit 14 and a bit slow) to having to have him PTS as an undetected cancer had shut down most of his organs. Bob's passing was much easier to deal with for me, it was quick, he hadn't suffered and he was old. Watching Jack fight and deteriorate over the course of 10 months was horrible, and like you I questioned 'what if'. He was an active, bouncy, beautiful terrier who's always had the best of everything. It seemed so unfair.

Good luck with the new pup if thats the way you decide to go. They never replace and they invariably have large paws to fill but they do make a house complete again.

Tootyfilou Sat 12-Jul-14 15:29:34

Thank you so much for your lovely post.
Indie was fit and well on the Friday, had him PTS on the Tuesday following a diagnosis of a rapidly spreading incurable sarcoma, such a huge shock for us all, but as you say at least he did not suffer for long. He was an amazing boy, and no other dog will ever be like him, but they are all unique and we will welcome it into our hearts and home .

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