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Poodles - standard or miniature?

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kelpeed Tue 25-Mar-14 08:30:15

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happygardening Tue 25-Mar-14 11:14:38

I have a miniature but adore the standards. Many years ago I met a standard that was 29" to the shoulder. That's a big dog in my book. I couldn't have got it in my car. We recently took our miniature to the kennels in the large exercise pen was a stunning standard (I so want one) he looked like an enormous version of mine. He like mine lept from sitting vertically in the air so pleased was he to see us. But where as mine leaps 2-3 feet at best he jumped 8 feet. Miniatures can easily live till 18 I doubt a dog of that size does and I believe it's more expensive to get a standard groomed I pay £35 every 6-8 weeks I think a standard can cost £50 or more. I suppose they need more exercise but may be not.
Other than that I understand there is little difference.

happygardening Tue 25-Mar-14 11:18:08

Meant to say mine walks for miles. Miniatures are really energetic little dogs. Or on a rainy days he slobs out in front of the fire.
Do contact Jackie Kitchener she's the secretary of the miniature poodle club uk (or something similar) she'll know of reputable breeders with puppies. Sadly because of the doddle craze there's lots of indiscriminate breeders out there.

bobbybearmummy Tue 25-Mar-14 16:31:19

I have 2 large miniatures.They are both 15" in height,and are in my opinion the perfect size.Can be still picked up,are large enough,not to be stepped on,and are energetic dogs.They do need at least an hour a day exercise,but I regularly do 4-5 hours walking with them. They are intelligent dogs,and if you are not carefull they will train you!!
Can highly recommend them!!

kelpeed Tue 25-Mar-14 18:39:39

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kelpeed Tue 25-Mar-14 18:40:19

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kelpeed Tue 25-Mar-14 18:41:42

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BelleinLondon Tue 25-Mar-14 21:04:37

Like bobbybearmummy said, big miniature is perfect. Here's ours. We knew from the parents' sizes how big he would be- or rescue and you'll know already!

happygardening Tue 25-Mar-14 23:30:16

Black, black, black black and apparently they have a steadier temperament.
Mine came from a top show breeder and he's 1/2 an inch over size they can't be more than 12" for a miniature and 10" for a toy. He's a big chunky dog. Mine lives with children another dog and cats we are a boisterous outgoing family and he's permanently happy and holds his own. I don't know why you think small dog = no long walks I walk mine at least and hour a day sometimes 2-3 he would go further without any problems his partner a much bigger dog doesn't want too.

bobbybearmummy Wed 26-Mar-14 08:11:00

Go to a good breeder,who health tests their dogs(especially for PRA).A breeder will know roughly the eventual sizes of their puppies.And do not dismiss a smaller dog,they can hold their own.Poodles,of all sizes are very versatile,which is why we love them!!

kelpeed Wed 26-Mar-14 08:11:36

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schoolchoicesdrivingmecrazy Wed 26-Mar-14 08:30:05

I currently have 2 standards and have had various standards for 15 years. In that time I've had 4 kids and moved house 3 times.

They are brilliant family dogs. Really smart, really loving and loyal, completely unfazeable, let you do anything to them and the most they do is roll their eyes and look long suffering (ours are regularly dressed up in ski goggles, ear defenders and full school uniform including tie and cardigan on occasion). Completely trustworthy and good natured.

They love a walk but are equally happy bombing round the garden playing footage with the kids. Some love retrieving and will fetch balls til kingdom come, some watch you throw a ball and then look at you as if to say "you threw it - you get it!". Then they will curl up in a small ball and sleep the rest of the day.

None of them are great chewers beyond puppyhood. Generally they are not thieves- you can leave them in a room with a roast and know they won't touch it - but anything that hits the floor is fair game.

They never smell and never shed. You do need to groom them every 6-8 weeks and brush them well at least once a week if you are keeping gem in a short coat, more if longer.

They live in average 12 years - realistically they die from about 10 years (quite young for a standard) to 14 years (very old for a standard). I have had black and blue poodles but the only ones I might stay away from is brown/apricot as they are meant to be a bit more excitable. Might be rubbish - you will find people saying it is def true and people saying it def isn't but I incline towards the former.

Poodle people are very helpful and it is a very small world. You need a properly bred standard where the parents have been fully health screened. If you speak to any member of the standard poodle club committee and sound nice and interested and knowledgable about poodles they will point you in the direction of a good litter available. They are all nervous about selling puppies to people who want to breed them with their labs and make labradoodles or worse so you may have to do a bit of work to convince them of your good intentions. Never buy a standard off the internet unless you know how to read a pedigree.

Hope that's helpful!

happygardening Wed 26-Mar-14 08:49:06

I second schoolchoice you really must approach one of the specialist poodle breed clubs and get further info which ever one you chose. Poodles are generally healthy but they do need to be health screened and top breeders will have done this. As Ive said Jackie Kitchener lives breaths sleeps eats min poodles. Top breeders are very nervous about selling them because of the poodle cross craze (which they obviously don't approve of) so expect a cautious welcome, you will be required to provide all you details, be prepared to answer questions etc and provide photos. Once they know you are genuine you'll be ok. She probably knows standard breeders as well. I too have heard that apricot are more excitable and unless you love constantly washing you dog I personally wouldn't get a white one, poodles like mud and water.
Good luck.

kelpeed Wed 26-Mar-14 11:45:14

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roadwalker Wed 26-Mar-14 12:48:14

I have a min poodle
She prances around on her back legs and can balance for ages, no training involved but she could get away with a tutu
I thought all poodles were essentially the same dog just different sizes?
My min is on the large size, last measuring was 15"
She is an easy dog, can run and play but not chomping at the bit for exercise. Happy to lay cuddled up all day if you let her
With hindsight I think she came from a backyard breeder. I saw parents so not too bad and she had been tested (or had papers to say so)
Oh, she is black. I loved the chocolate ones but DS wanted black

bobbybearmummy Wed 26-Mar-14 16:46:24

Puppies are clipped from 4 weeks,face ,feet and tails.Then roughly every 6 weeks .... even as puppies,its important to get them used to regular grooming.
They have a very soft puppy coat for around 12 months,but they go through a coat change(this can be a nightmare as they mat very easily then)

After they have gone through this change,the coat becomes more coarser and can be shaped into whatever you like!!

kelpeed Sat 07-Jun-14 00:12:08

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kelpeed Sat 07-Jun-14 00:22:28

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VetNurse Sat 07-Jun-14 06:05:53

Awww I love poodles. Loads better than all these poodle crosses that have popped up. Enjoy!

Doodlekitty Sat 07-Jun-14 06:38:35

My mam has a miniature poodle and I have a poodle cross. They are both amazing dogs and training was so easy, we went to classes together and with consistency at home tgey are both very obedient dogs. I dont know if tgis is a poodle thing or due to my mams circumstances but her poodle gets major separation anxiety so I would suggest getting him used to being left alone quite early, obviously starting with short times.

DontPutMeDownForCardio Sat 07-Jun-14 07:00:37

Be aware that he shouldn't be doing heavy exercise for some time yet. I think they say 12-18 months to ensure his bones are growing adequately. To much exercise too young stores up trouble for the future. Lovely dog though.

kelpeed Sat 07-Jun-14 07:36:57

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kelpeed Sat 07-Jun-14 07:43:20

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Doodlekitty Sat 07-Jun-14 08:33:56

I really dont know. Hes a black. My cross is white and has no issues but we left her (meaning for an hour or 2) from being young. My mams is also a destroyer of toys but not destructive with anything else

DontPutMeDownForCardio Sat 07-Jun-14 10:39:08

Make sure the puppy had his own space he can retreat to if he needs to where nobody is going to bother him - make sure the kids know not to bug him when he goes in his bed for example. Puppies need a lot of sleep!

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