AARRGGGGHHH! <<very angry>>(12 Posts)
I'm hacked off. Big time. I need a rant.
Thanks to a selfish bitch a dog is now suffering and will do so for the next week and there is NOTHING I can do about it.
On Weds my friend and I got called out to a stray/dangerous dog on the estate (we get lots of knocks on the door because we are known as the 'doggy' people).
Dog was a beautiful little thing, but terrified, growling snarling and snapping. Managed to corner it and get a lead on and it calmed down a bit (so did I!).
Started knocking on doors and eventually a woman answered and said he was hers. He definitely knew her and ran in the house when released, but was NOT a happy dog. Woman is heavily pregnant and has another DC. Me and friend are very concerned. There is def something wrong with the dog, and it even snarled at the owner. House is chaotic and the dog seems a wreck.
Anyway, on Friday we discover that the woman is in the middle of a break up and is talking about putting the dog on gumtree. Dog has also got out again and has snapped at two people. We advise against it and speak to Rescue friend to get advice for woman. Tbh best advice is to PTS - this dog would not be rehomed without a serious amount of treatment/behaviourist intervention.
Woman will NOT listen to us and tries to advertise dog on local selling pages. Thankfully the advert is pulled.
Get a call from the dog warden this afternoon, woman has called him out and said she 'found a stray'. He calls us, we tell him the truth but woman won't admit the dog is hers.
Warden has no choice but to take dog to a pound. Local rescue can't take him, nor can next one on. Local rescue tells woman that if she admits ownership and signs dog over to her she will take him and put him out of his misery. She won't.
That poor fucking animal will now spend the next 7 days sat in a cage waiting for an 'owner' to turn up. It's already stressing and biting its feet and there is NOTHING we can do unless that silly cow tells the truth. I can't go round there (not allowed). We have no 'proof' and Warden can't go against the rules.
I am SO bastard angry. And so fucking helpless. That bloody woman could have ended this already. That poor dog. ARRGGHHHH BOLLOCKS.
Awful,nasty evil cow.
And she'll be allowed to go,on and get more.
Any one you know mutually who can
yell at talk to her?
I'm not 'allowed' to - soldier household so it would look as if I was abusing my rank (I get it, but it's frustrating).
Unit won't get involved (spineless bastards) because there is no proof - only the word of me and my friend. We've told them we'd write statements but they said "we deal with families not dogs"
Dog warden has said to her 'I know you are lying, tell me the truth and we can get this over with'. She won't change her story (stupid fucking cow has muzzled the dog when the warden got there - told him she 'found' a muzzle so thought it would be a good idea to use it)
Dog is so lovely looking and so fucking scared.
Oh, that's shocking, disgusting behaviour!
I totally get your frustration, on an army estate myself with a dog. However our 'doggy person' is also the welfare officer which probably helps.
There is a family on our estate who have been through 5 dogs in as many years as they get too big (Alsatian, German shepherd types) for the wife to cope with while her husband is away, so they then sell them on facebook pages. She openly admits she's got no time to walk a dog with 5 kids as well. Then has a go at me for walking my Staffie X on the estate when kids are around (on a lead I might add!)
These type of people are despicable in my eyes, and the only victims are the defenseless pups!
Sorry no useful advice, but feel your pain.
I get that she's hurting - heavily pregnant, broken marriage. But that's not the dogs fault.
Friday it was all "I can't afford it, I need money" (but vet would have PTS on my account). Now it's not her dog. Rescue friend wouldn't have asked for any money.
She's just being bloody minded - maybe punishing the ex (although I have no idea why he won't step up either, and the unit won't tell me who he is) but in the meantime it's the dog that is hurting itself, the dog that is suffering.
I'm so wound up. What a shitty shitty day.
Are there any proper no-kill rescue organisations, of the type that can handle full rehabilitation and proper behavioral intervention, in your area?
I know most of them are full to bursting point, but you might just get lucky and hit upon one that can intervene, with the pound, on this dog's behalf.
What breed/type is it and do you know how old?
What about Dogs Trust?
Is it really and completely so past the point of redemption that the only answer is to kill it?
I agree, utter bitch of an owner, but I hate these situations where the only facilities at rescuer's disposal is to 'put to sleep'. Death seems a very harsh reward for a lifetime of abuse.
Is there nothing can be done?
Hey, well the poor dog is still at the pound, and hasn't had a good night .
We've got two no-kill rescues in the area - but no-kill doesn't mean 'not ever'. They are both full, and the one we have links to (as volunteers and friends) said to the dog warden on Sat that she couldn't have the dog this weekend, but would move one of her other long termers on Mon if woman would keep him till then* - but of course that would mean that woman would have to admit dog was hers - and she won't. Once the dog is in the council system (which it is now) they have to follow the rules. Which means the dog now has to stay 7 days unless an owner turns up.
*she was willing to move another dog into her own house so that snappy dog could have a space, but couldn't do this until after the weekend because she has her grand kids staying. I couldn't take him because I've got DD.
The dog could probably have a chance with some intensive re-training and help - but small rescues cannot afford that. It's a biter, very nervous and very aggressive - we could have lost fingers when we were trying to catch it, it snapped more than once (i was bloody terrified!) so the person to take it on would have to be childless, no other animals, prob no other dogs. With 100s of 1000s of dogs already in rescue, this one doesn't really stand a chance.
Don't get me wrong, I love dogs, would have a houseful if I could. I hate how disposable they have become and could cry at this situation - but I have to be pragmatic. Not all dogs can be saved, sometimes the best thing we can do is end their suffering - and trust me, this dog is suffering.
It's criminal that people are allowed to do this to animals. As much as it's a lovely idea to think it could be rehabilitated, I very much doubt. There are probably too many triggers for it's aggression. If the poor dog is as stressed out as you say, the kindest thing to do would be to put it to sleep. All that stress, no way of coping with it, other than be aggressive and biting/chewing/scratching itself. It's not living, just existing. So so sad.
Well done you by the way. You've done as much as you can.
We are all upset (me, my friend, rescue friend). Even the dog warden that we have known for years was losing it yesterday - he's furious.
I want to go storming round there and shout and scream at her until I'm hoarse - but what's the point? We've tried to find other avenues, but all our friends have dogs and/or kids and we can't find a rescue within 30 miles or so that has spaces (after Xmas is the worst time for rescue ). It's too late now anyway unless the woman goes back on her story, the dog is now 'lost' and they have to wait for an 'owner' to turn up.
If she is denying ownership of the dog is there a way the warden can access albums or photos of the dog with the family to use as proof?
We told the warden about the FB selling group, but he didn't seem to think it would do any good. I'm not convinced it was ever a 'pet' as such. I know quite a bit about the family situation that makes me think it belonged to someone else, who then left it behind.
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