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jasminum Fri 07-Feb-14 15:02:05

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CEvert Fri 07-Feb-14 16:50:18

It's no different to handling raw meat when you are cooking, you just need to make sure the surfaces you touched are wiped clean afterwards.

I feed my dogs raw meat in the kitchen, and the floor is wiped and disinfected regularly.
They are a bit messy when fed bones, so I usually kick them out to the garden or place a large towel for them to eat on.

You can always wipe their mouths clean after their meal if you are that worried.

I dont think there is a big enough independant study to confirm raw feeding is superior but from nearly all owners who switched to raw feeding, they said it has been for the better.

The big brands are unlikely to pour money in to this reaseach as any findings in favour of raw feeding is likely to hurt their business.

fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 07-Feb-14 19:17:23

I agree that I give no more thought to handling meat for the dog than I do for us. I do not worry about salmonella as I spray and wipe surfaces and wash hands. I defrost things in lidded plastic tupperware type tubs.

I only wipe the dogs face if he is visably messy (he is beardy!)

Nutriment is great, and if you feed a good variety of what they offer you will be meeting your dogs needs. It is also great to allow you to dabble and get confidence, whilst letting the benefits speak forbthemselves.There is no reason why you can't do it yourself but do your research properly to make sure you fully understand what is needed. For instance, if you were ti feed mince only, it would need to be a dog mince with bones in.

Joining a FB group like raw feeding Uk and read the info files thoroughly. It is a great way to feed as long as done properly...some old hands are slightly aghast on there at the minute as the ch5 programme has caused a rush of people who have joined and launched straight in without researching and are feeding inappropriate things! They are a great helpful bunch and if you join, read the files and then dive in with any questions you'll find them a great support.

As CEvert has pointed out, there are no studies, as there is no one who can make money from this unless one of the manufacturers can prove that a raw diet is utterly wrong and talk us all out of it. The pro raw argument isn't a money spinner as most source themselves.

jasminum Fri 07-Feb-14 19:39:35

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fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 07-Feb-14 19:59:41

All I can say is that I have fed raw for nearly a year, and in that time neither me, dh, ds, my parents who dog sit and feed him twice a week or indeed the dog himself have had any cases of food poisoning. I wouldn't want to eat his food but to be honest I am pretty sure it is better than the quality meat that goes into kibble. I once passed by a factory that processed 'products for animal feed' and I have NEVER fed my dog anything raw that smelt so utterly rank.

A think the arguement about pathogens shed in faeces being a danger to dc contracting salmonella is a little hmm personally too. Surely you carry out pretty stringent cleaning on any child who touches dog poo?!

All you can do is read and decide where you sit personally on the 'risk' scale.

Butterflylovers Fri 07-Feb-14 21:16:54

If studies show raw feeding is more beneficial there is still money to be made but not at the margin the big brands currently making. For the average person there is a max amount they are willing or able to spend and they are unlikely to spend more on petfood than on themselves.
Also the people who can afford it would simply make the food fresh themselves, and the big brands would lose their custom. So there is no benefit for them. They will keep telling you how healthy their food is.

To me the meat in kibbles is nuked. Makes you think how much nutrition is left!!!

fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 07-Feb-14 21:23:15

They can't bank that we would buy our raw ftom them and not just from a butcher though. Raw would break their hold on the market and for lower profit margins for the market share they did manage to hold. It is way too difficult for them to control the market supply if they did tell us it was okay to feed.

Butterflylovers Fri 07-Feb-14 21:28:40

If some inventor invented kibbles for human beings which are concentrated in nutrients and have all the vitamins and minerals you require. How many of us would eat that instead of a balanced fresh diet?

Same theory for yr dogs.

CEvert Fri 07-Feb-14 21:34:19

Sounds like space food to me. grin

jasminum Fri 07-Feb-14 21:41:56

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jasminum Fri 07-Feb-14 21:42:22

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fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 07-Feb-14 22:00:47

grin I was on FB the other day and a local selling page post popped up with someone trying to sell herbalife. 'The best nutricious breakfast' said the caption to a pic of milkshake and a whole host of pills. I did actually laugh out loud!

CEvert Fri 07-Feb-14 22:21:18

If you don't think meal replacement is best for you then why would you think kibbles for dogs are better than feeding them fresh?

Dog food was commercialised about 150 yrs ago to make money from substandard meat (for humans) and this continues to this day. And the manufacturers are telling us by adding stuff to it that what they produce are the best your dogs can eat and how nutritious it is. I just don't buy it!!

The best meals are prepared by mama nature.

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