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anyone got a puppy from halsham dog breeder?

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minkersmum Fri 22-Nov-13 22:59:39

I have fallen in love with a little puppy i enquired about.

However I am the other end of the country and having come across so many unscrupulous people selling pups during my search I feel it would be too big a risk to buy a pup from someone so far away.

But as the pup came from a litter from a breeder I thought there might be a miniscule chance someone on here has boughtone and reassure me it came from a lovely home and all is good??


Or has anyone ever bought one from a breeder in that area as seems to be a licensed breeder so must have puppies for sale fairly often.

Thanks in advance.

digerd Mon 25-Nov-13 19:57:09

There is a very friendly Cavishon on our dog walks but is rather large and looks more like a chunky medium sized poodle or cockerpoo.

The fastest runner is a tiny Maltipoo. He is like that road runner in the Loony Tunes cartoons.grin

fanoftheinvisibleman Mon 25-Nov-13 18:58:20

I have a Border and they are definitely hardy little things. Loads of people tell their big dogs to go steady with him and then next thing you know the tiny terrierist has bowled them over and a flying ball of dogs goes haring past! He gets on best with the springers, beagles and vislas in our doggy group as they level peg for rough play.

He definitely has a furry face too! They are fantastic dogs.

minkersmum Mon 25-Nov-13 18:30:53

I think you are right lady turmoil. Some of the pups I came across that were KC registered did not seem any better bred than the others. It seems like kc reg is something that sellers can do fairly easily and makes their pups more attractive to buyers who are niave enough to feel reassured by this.

The majority of pups (unless cross breeds) I saw on gumtree/freeads/pets4homes were kc reg.

Border terrier is high on my list of possibilities. As a pup it would be walked seperately anyway at least as an adult a border would be hardy enough. My friend has a cavachon thingy and he just seems more dainty and fragile.

LadyTurmoil Mon 25-Nov-13 17:04:18

I thought that bring KC registered isn't worth the paper it's written on. The breeders can register some of the litters as KC but will have litters in between that are unregistered, so basically the poor bitch is being bred from all the time, with probably designer cross-breeds in between the pedigree ones. Horrible.

digerd Mon 25-Nov-13 14:52:22

Breed wise, I think a Border Terrier for small, hardy and can run for miles. Also furry otter type face. However, as doodle is big and clumsy he could squash any small breed pup.

minkersmum Mon 25-Nov-13 09:52:18

neeps and tatties Doris looks just my cuppa. However the rehoming criteria prefers within 20 mile radius of Brighton and I am at least 10 hours from Brighton. Also states the don't like to rehome with young children. sad

Kitsmummy she is lovely but not really my cuppa. Doesn't look like she'd survive the terrain up here. We kind of need a hardy type. Plusy doodle is huge and clumsy, I would worry he'd accidently squash her hmm

kitsmummy Mon 25-Nov-13 09:24:17

lollipop, cav x bichon

neepsandtatties Mon 25-Nov-13 08:15:58

Doris at bottom of this page

minkersmum Sun 24-Nov-13 22:43:55

mishmash I understand that. It is just that once I had seen that wee face I was smitten.

I would like a small dog. I prefer hairy. Like eyebrows/beards, scruffy rather than lapdogish. I also quite like that goofy look that some dogs have!! Breed wise I like the appearance of border terriers, min schnauzers, lakeland terriers, bedlington terriers, poodle crosses, daschunds esp hairy ones!!

Problem with rescue is I want a dog who is completely comfortable with the children. We have been EXCEPTIONALLY lucky with our labradoodle rescue in that he is very lovely with them. You can just tell he loves them! Our great dane was the same. You know how some dogs are fine and tolerate kids and some actually adore them. My wee mongrel didn't like kids. From day one although I got her pre kids. However I knew her limitations and I made sure my dc treated her with respect. She would stay out the way and they lived side by side without as much as a grumble.

This time I want a little one who can grow with the kids.

Anyone who can find me a suitable beast in a rescue please be my guest.

Mishmashofstyles Sun 24-Nov-13 19:27:04

I think it's a mistake to get a dog that looks like / to replace another individually, you know. I've seen people do it before and the second dog just isn't what they were hoping to get. Which is the first dog!

Floralnomad Sun 24-Nov-13 19:23:17

Why not look at Many Tears ,they have lots of puppies ,many from puppy farms .

neepsandtatties Sun 24-Nov-13 18:56:06

What cross-breed/type are you interested in?

I bet the power of mumsnet can find you a puppy of that cross in rescue!

minkersmum Sun 24-Nov-13 18:07:50

Thank you for all the replies.

I completely understand what everyone is saying. I have had dogs my whole life.

I have had dogs from various sources over the years.
I've dogs from local people who have had a surprise litter, dogs from breeders who were kc reg, dogs from cat and dog home and a Great Dane from a breeder who was recommended to me by dane owners.

The dog who was healthiest, hardiest and most loyal was a wee mongrel from the pound. Got her when I was 19 and she died last year aged 18. Even now I could cry typing this. She was just the best wee dog. It was like she felt I had saved her and she was just connected to me. Out of the dogs I have had she wasn't the best looking or the easiest going but she is the one who completely stole my heart. And I really have loved ALL my dogs.

My pedigree Great Dane from the recommended breeder had the most trouble. Perhaps just relating to the breed but it makes me feel so much about dogs is luck.

We now have a dog pound rescue who we got two years ago. He is a huge chocolate labradoodle now 6 years old. He has been fantastic with the children and I feel we were lucky to find him. Which happened by sheer chance. We went to the home to find a SMALL dog and the biggest dog chose us!

I still feel I would like a small dog. I also miss having a bitch. My children have never experienced the joy of a puppy.

Since looking I have come across stuff that makes me want to cry. People selling their unspayed 2 year old and ad says 'not neutered and due to come into season soon'. I feel so angry when I read that. Some people are disgusting.

The thing with this puppy was it looked like my old mongrel. My wee love. It was just a wee cross breed and when I contacted the woman at first there was no indication of her being a breeder. She said it was a mistake. Dog had come on holiday and her dog came into season. So I had already seen photographs etc when I came across her ad for other 'well bred, pedigree pups'. It was in this ad she said she was a licensed breeder.

I won't buy the pup from her. I won't allow myself to be that irresponsible but it was hard once I had seen the pup and her looking like my old girl.

I have been in touch with a kc assured breeder as recommended by the breed club but tbh she was just horrible. I know it must be hard to sieve through the buying on a whim people and the responsible forever home people but she was just bloody rude.

The whole thing is a minefield. I'm not sure which is most difficult finding the 'right' breed for us or the 'right breeder'.

Feeling very disheartened. sad

Mylittlepotofjoy Sun 24-Nov-13 00:40:17

Never buy a puppy without seeing it in the flesh !!!! never ever . I breed dogs very occasional when we want a new show dog and I am willing for people to visit as many times as they want . I don't take deposits as I would rather people don't have a puppy than hold them to random with a deposit. I would never sell you one of my pups without you visiting Good breeders will be know to others in their bred . Please pass on this dog and look via breed clubs for a puppy. Also kennel club registration means very little unfortunately it only means the parents are pedigree not that they and the pups have been health tested sad

Karbea Sat 23-Nov-13 18:17:50

What sort of breeds it? Why don't you look on champdogs? Is it very rare?

We've found a lovely breeder on there, who sends me pictures everyday, and we've been to see the pups at 3 weeks, we will go again at 5 and pick up at 8.
Mind you we are in London and she's nr Blackpool, but tbh I think it's worth travelling for the right dog.

fanoftheinvisibleman Sat 23-Nov-13 17:20:29

A quick google has 87 adverts for kc reg puppies and 1753 adverts on pets4homes sad. Given that these are ads for puppies available now rather than breeders looking for waiting lists then it isn't that uncommon at all.

I'm not saying they are all puppy farmers but there is so much more to it than kc registration that it id not even a good starting point. Breed club would be a better one.

smokeandglitter Sat 23-Nov-13 17:07:23

True fanof, but it's quite uncommon that puppy farmers bother and if you have their kc details you can look them up more easily and ask other breeders more easily if they have heard good/bad things about the kennel. Sorry, it came across a little wrongly in the above post. It should really read "good and trustworthy breeders will not usually..."

GeeinItLaldy Sat 23-Nov-13 17:02:11

If you substituted the phrase 'puppy farmer' for 'commercial breeder', would you still be keen to buy a puppy from this person. Because commercial breeding is puppy farming, whether it's a few litters or thousands.

fanoftheinvisibleman Sat 23-Nov-13 16:47:36

Smokeandglitter KC registration is pretty much meaning less. I could breed my kc reg dog tomorrow with another kc reg dog and then register the litter and I don't know a thing about breeding dogs. Puppy farmers kc reg too.

smokeandglitter Sat 23-Nov-13 16:25:14

Are they Kennel Club registered? Do you get to meet the mum?

My sister bought two puppies and then saw the breeder on a documentary about puppy farms later. Luckily her two are lovely but others had dogs that were seriously ill, fatally ill, have lt health conditions or are aggressive.

KC registered breeders will not usually have puppies for sale that often and will usually have a waiting list. Most would not be happy with you sending a family member to collect them and would want to meet you, even my cat's breeder wanted to meet me and we still keep in contact sending info and photos now.

everlong Sat 23-Nov-13 16:14:26

A friend replied to an ad on dogs4homes and told the chap she wanted a female puppy.
They arranged to meet in a service station car park miles from home. The guy opened his boot of his car and showed her a handful of puppies. All males.

She bought one. He'd come over from Ireland.
The dog had had some issues with growling, being territorial towards the DH but on the whole is a nice dig.

But this could have been SO much worse and a different story altogether!

sweetkitty Sat 23-Nov-13 15:55:35

Agree with everything moosemama has said.

Our breeder was recommended by someone who knows the breed, she doesn't advertise pups she doesn't need to, she usually has a waiting list. We were invited to come meet the bitch when she was still pregnant and yes she vetted us and much as we did her. She encouraged us to visit as much as we could once the pups were born so we could bond with our puppy.

I would walk away sorry, what breed is it your after? Go on champ dogs or the breeds club website?

bamboobutton Sat 23-Nov-13 15:51:36

pleeeeease don't buy from this breeder!

i have a friend that bought in similar circumstances and it caused so much heartache, money and eventually(well, not really eventually, it was quite quick) it cost the life of the puppy.

these dogs will not be healthy and will end up costing you a bomb in vet bills.

contact breed clubs, breed rescues or kennel club. only a fool would buy off craigs list, breeder websites etc.

everlong Sat 23-Nov-13 15:44:33

So if you like the puppy your family member is picking it up?

moosemama Sat 23-Nov-13 13:13:25

Commercial dog breeders are puppy farms, regardless of what they tell you. If they breed dogs purely for profit then they are, in effect, farming puppies.

Good breeders tend to breed very few litters - often only having a litter if they want a pup themselves - and are extremely choosy about who gets one of their pups. They should be vetting you as much as you are they and if there were a decent breeder they would have vetted and arranged homes for their puppies before the bitch has even been mated.

I would be very suspicious of anyone that sent photos and encouraged me to fall in love with a particular puppy over the internet. The next thing you know they'll be offering to deliver or meet you in a service station carpark to hand over the pup. hmm

Please walk away and find a reputable breeder. Far better to wait for the right pup and pay a bit more to get the right dog for your family than to go for the first pair of pleading big brown eyes and have either you, the dog or both regret it in the long-run. You will have this dog as part of your family for at least 10/12 years, if not longer, depending on the breed, so it's well worth being extremely careful who he/she comes from. I guarantee that your heart will melt and you will fall in love with a pup from the right breeder the first time you get to meet them - it won't just be this pup, that you've only seen in a photograph that will win your heart.

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