Thoughts on "many Tears" or other rescue centres in the South of England?(35 Posts)
We're seriously thinking of getting a young dog or puppy in a few months and would be hoping to get one from a rescue. We have DCs aged 5 and 7, so are looking for somewhere that will let families with young children adopt suitable dogs. I'm quite keen to use a rescue that "fosters" dogs in a home environment and obviously we're keen to use an organisation that will put a lot of effort into ensuring they match us with a dog that suits our family (and will like living with us!). We're quite interested by Many Tears - any of you have views about them? Otherwise any other good rescue centres you can recommend in the South (e.g. Hants, Dorset, Surrey, Sussex etc.). Any advice gratefully received.
"They had financial assists of over 98,000 at one point prob more now but claim to be broke."
I know it's an old post on an even older thread...but...
Third sector organisations running as they should, should at all times have 6 months running costs in reserve...anything less than that would be considered mismanagement.
So it is entirely possible for a not for profit organisation to have what seems like a large sum of money and simultaneously have no spare funds.
I know nothing about MT's finances and haven't dealt with them in anyway, but I do know that it is standard practice to have ringfenced reserved funds.
I too rescued from Last Chance, in Edenbridge, Kent, a alsation/collie cross back in 2001, we lost him in 2015, the best dog we ever had, very much missed. I also got my two of my cats from there, in 2004, they are still going strong. My last rescue dog Poppy is from Turkey, from Happy Tails, rescue without borders, they are on Facebook.Had her just over two years now.
Do not bother with Many Tears if you work from home! I have wasted a lot of time filling in the adoption form, only to be told "we do not consider people who work from home". They should clearly state this on their website. I have worked from home about 11 years, had a dog for 9 years, she is perfectly happy and healthy and we just wanted to adopt a friend for her. The fact that I work from home does not mean I cannot do anything with the dogs! Quite the opposite! I feel discriminated and just wonder where these dogs actually get sent to.
Many tears is a not for profit . It has mixed reviews. Some say that it is genuine. Others are very angry and say that they work hand in hand with puppy farmers enabling them to continue farming by taking their puppies and dogs and selling them. Some claim the dogs are misdescribed. They had financial assists of over 98,000 at one point prob more now but claim to be broke. Company is set up in a way that not easy to see how funds are used. My advice be cautious and research thoroughly via multiple trusted sources.
Many tears have recently stepped into save a dog I know who originally came from them. Unfortunately the owners didn't have insurance and she needed a really expensive operation. MT stepped in at the last minute after the children had done their final goodbyes and gone to school, the op was a success and the dog doing well
There's also a MT fosterer who walks where we walk our dog. She goes to a lot of effort to make sure the dogs she looks after are really well socialised. My dog sitter fosters for Dorset Animal Workers Group which is a small rescue. Our cat (the sloppiest of the 4 we have) came from Pound kitten Rescue in Poole. They also have dogs - Pound Puppy Rescue.
Stubbington Ark is ashore, give them a wide berth! Try Dog's Trust instead. If you'd consider a greyhound try Celia Cross kennels near Guildford. They do great work.
Re the Ark, I know so many people who have had problems adopting animals from there and the reasons were ridiculous! One person was refused a cat because she works, another was refused a dog because when they turned up unannounced for the home visit my friend's DH was collecting their daughter from school and friend had put on the form that someone was home all day (her DH works from home)!!! They continually bleat in the local press that they are struggling spacewise etc - I wonder why???
We adopted from Many Tears, about 18 months ago - a 5 month old pup.
We had a positive experience, the foster carer was lovely, all their questions made perfect sense (I'm glad they ask them, tbh), and the local lady who visited to do the homecheck was also lovely. I didn't find any of it daunting or scary, and actually found the homecheck practical and helpful!
Our kids were nearly 5 and nearly 8 at the time, and our pup seemed fine with kids. After a few months, it became clear that he had issues with being touched/cuddled too much - he was in a pound for the first 3-4 months of his life, so hadn't had much socialization with humans! So we had a few behaviour issues as adolescence hit.
I emailed MT, and they phoned and gave advice over the phone - helpful as they could be, but for us it wasn't really as useful as having someone meet the dog and give advice. So we paid ourselves for a one-off visit from a behaviourist, who was worth every penny. Our pup is not aggressive by nature, but he is scared of strangers - especially kids - and has growled, so we tell visitors to ignore him till he gets to know them. Its working beautifully, he's gaining confidence and our kids and their friends are fine with him.
BUT, as rescue pup, he does have issues - and we went through a stressful patch. He's not the dog I thought I wanted, iyswim, but I do want the dog we have
I digress! MT were fine, and the only thing I'd do differently is pick a dog who has been fostered with children, as opposed to just meeting lots of them when out and about: behaviour is different in a home setting. I have learned.
We seriously considered two dogs from here which looks to be a really nice rescue, with lots of info on the dogs.
Meant to add these too two as well: www.prodogsdirect.org.uk/#/dogs/4564213851 and www.heathlands.org.uk/ Bit further away but not impossible. They both have Facebook pages as well you can look for. Heathlands (Hertfordshire) have said on their FB page that they've got loads of puppies handed in to pounds (unwanted Christmas presents already which they will soon be putting up on their website www.facebook.com/pages/Heathlands-Animal-Sanctuary-Royston/162793817103330?fref=ts
I got my dog from Friends of the Animals RCT. I was thoroughly vetted at home, has an interview over the phone, changed my mind over dog (for the better) & they are just fab.
We did drive 2 hrs to get doggie, but we love her & she couldn't be more ideal for us.
I did look at local rescues, but to no avail.
In Hampshire there is the Ark at Stubbington, and Portsmouth City Council runs its own stray/rescue kennels at Burrfields.
My friend fosters dogs for the greyhound trust and previous to that the dogs trust and both would place dogs with families
a couple of my friends in Kent have adopted through last chance rescue which i think is Maidstone way
For checking out rescues in general, several ways to go. Obviously there is DogsBlogs which lists quite a few. There is Rescue Review which is a great idea in encouraging people to give feedback on their adoption experiences - always worth a look. Big national charities such as Blue Cross and Dogs Trust will have their branches listed on their sites, similarly for the RGT which supports a lot of branches doing greyhound rescue. Ultimately, there is no fully comprehensive list - rescues vary enormously in size, types of animal taken/homed and their structure, and are not registered/licensed by anybody unless dealing with dangerous/wild animals (beware of any rescue that claims to be). Otherwise you are best probably using the old mantra "Google is your friend" Or of course asking on here!
Great to hear details about Hope Rescue. I don't have any axe to grind - positively or negatively - and I do have big reservations about whether they just help perpetuate the breeding/profit cycle but they do have a lot of dogs and foster all over the UK, which does make it easier for some people if they are a long way away from Wales. Scutttle is there a central register (apart from the Dog Pages site) that lists ALL UK rescues, that people can be directed to???
Callisto, congratulations! I have a lot to do with Hope - attend a lot of their events, and see their volunteers often. They are a highly reputable charity and I particularly like the way they insist on foster assessments of dogs before adoption. You will be in very safe hands. They have a terrific programme of events - if you are ever in S Wales, come along!
Another reason for liking them a great deal is that as well as their excellent work in rehoming, they have taken a more strategic approach on pound dogs and now GUARANTEE to at least two local Councils that they will find homes for all the unclaimed pound dogs, thus ensuring a big reduction in numbers killed. For this they are to be hugely congratulated. They are also leading the Welsh end of the campaign on BSL, and I'm likely to be attending some joint meetings with them shortly on the Welsh Govt's current consultation on Dangerous Dogs. The lady who founded them actually started out with one of our greyhound charities but she was so moved by the plight of Last Hope (only look him up if you are feeling brave ) she went on to found her own rescue and it is now going great guns.
I get very tired from hearing from certain large rehoming organisations in Wales that they can't campaign as it would jeopardise the supply of
profit dogs - Hope and many other rescues demonstrate that it's perfectly possible to be good at rehoming dogs and to take a strategic view too of the issues concerned, thus ensuring we are not just providing a conveyor belt, and in effect enabling the easy disposal of dogs.
I'm in the process of getting a dog from Hope Rescue. They rescue dogs from council pounds and although they are based in S Wales they foster all over the midlands and SW. They have been v professional and fast acting so far.
Here is the link: [www.hoperescue.org.uk Hope]]
Good luck with your search - looking forward to updates!
Many thanks for all these replies. Think that MT may suit us well, and if we end up paying for follow up then so be it. Also like the look of Comfy care so will bear them in mind. Hope to maybe be posting in a few months that we have a new family member!
We have also recently adopted from Many Tears. Our adoption took slightly longer due to us applying just before Xmas, and understandably they will not re-home puppies just before Xmas. In all the adoption process lasted 2 weeks. We applied using an on-line form. The next day a lady at the rescue called us and we had a lengthy conversation. She then passed our deatls onto the fosterer who called the same day. She went through details about the puppy and asked us some questions. Later in the week we had a home check, then one week later we met our pup and took her home two days later.
It did all seem a bit daunting, but actually the questions were all sensible. We haven't had a dog before and the process has meant we have some idea of what we are doing. The fosterers were great and gave us the puppy's routine, as well as lots of advice. The home checker was great and as she's local has told us to get in touch if we need to.
As we adopted a puppy, the fosterer was very strict about who she would go to apparently. However, we are not experienced dog owners, but did do some research into training and raising a puppy. Basically, they want to ensure people are adopting that will train the dog and not return a badly behaved untrained dog to them with less chance of rehoming as it's now less cute.
They do have many ex-breeding dogs who they have strict criteria for rehoming and we wouldn't have been allowed one of those.
We've just adopted a puppy from MT, it was a good experience here. Esther is a boxer x border terrier and she's fab. She was in foster and the fosterer and MT seemed to really want to ensure she was going to the right home.
Our DC are 4 and 9, so they were keen that we get a dog that would definitely be suitable for them. One dog I enquired about wouldn't have been suitable and they said so.
If you look at the recent thread "Problem getting a rescue dog, are none suitable with kids?" you'll find a few links to rescues sites in the South East. Sorry, my internet is super slow today otherwise I'd paste them in here but it would take ages! As tooearly said, MT have been criticised and I do wonder whether they just help to perpetuate the cycle of crappy breeders in Wales (altho' only tough legislation and enforcement will really help, imo). I don't have first hand experience of them but they do give you lots of info on the dogs, have good write-ups from fosterers, which I think is v important. I once asked about Dorset Dog Rescue on here and a lady who worked in the rescue field said they hadn't got a v good reputation. I wouldn't recommend Allsorts in Sussex particularly. I looked after a puppy from there for a week for someone, it had kennel cough, a really foul smell and the runs - I don't think they'd looked after it v well and, in hindsight, they seemed very keen to get it rehomed and didn't really ask many questions which would have uncovered that the breed (active collie cross) wasn't really suitable for the people who were adopting. There's also www.dogpages.co.uk which has a section for the South of England, listing all rescues sites in that area. If you're keen on a particular breed, there are breed specific rescues you can find by doing a google search.
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