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laneyboo Fri 28-Dec-12 17:44:22

Hi. We have a Springerdoodle, he's the nicest dog. Loves people and other dogs and is becoming really well trained, with lots of time and effort. Just thought I'd give all of you 'designer' breed doubters the chance to have go, ŵith it being Christmas time still.

LtXmasEve Wed 02-Jan-13 18:14:21

maybe then we could think about a rescue, although the idea that you get a blank canvas with a puppy and minimise the risks by going to a reputable breeder is appealing. Especially with kids

There are hundreds of puppies in Rescue. MuttDog was from a litter of 6 that were dumped in a sports bag in a car park when they were about 6 weeks old. They were next to a Biffa Bin. If the bag hadn't 'yapped' when someone walked past they would have been thrown in the rubbish and crushed to death sad angry

You don't need a pedigree or to buy from a breeder to ensure a dog that is 'good with kids' or a 'blank canvas'. And there is no such thing as 'good with kids' versus 'bad with kids' - Deed NOT Breed - a dog is what you make it.

If you get a puppy you can pretty much turn it into whatever you want. Good training is essential and if you went for an older dog then a reputable rescue will had started the process.

Everyone - please, if you are thinking about getting a dog this year - PLEASE consider a Rescue Dog, don't let the stinking RSPCA kill more healthy dogs just because they cannot find homes for them. sad

needastrongone Wed 02-Jan-13 17:43:58

Oh and hip scores etc very low for breed etc.

DH very keen to have another dog in a year or so as we have taken to dog ownership better than we ever imagined so maybe then we could think about a rescue, although the idea that you get a blank canvas with a puppy and minimise the risks by going to a reputable breeder is appealing. Especially with kids.

When you read the threads on the doghouse, this seems a selfish attitude though, which I never considered it to be before, just that we could give a loving home and cherish a puppy for its whole life.

This probably isn't the right thread and I am not really sure what I am trying to say lol but when I posted initially and with excitement that we were getting our puppy the first reply was to ask why not a rescue?

They are not for everyone though but why should I feel bad about this I guess when I love and adore our pedigree dog?

All said in good spirit anyway and I luffs my puppy!!!!!

Happy new year!!

needastrongone Wed 02-Jan-13 16:55:24

Honey - we did a lot of research. Tons!!! Our breeder loves Springers but prefers them smaller, so carefully selected the sire, their dam already small. Not sure whether that's a good or bad thing they did, their personal preference I guess. Only breed to gain a puppy. Only once per bitch. Lifelong support and will have asked he go to them for holidays etc rather than kennels. He will come with us though anyway!

Still, we could have had a rescue, I appreciate this fact and 'saved a dog'! Feel a touch bad about this fact.

HoneyDragon Wed 02-Jan-13 15:07:48

Needastrongone don't feel bad smile

That is not the same as a designer dog. You researched, I assume, and bought a Pedigree from a reputable breeder who does it for the love of the breed. The breeder would also no lineage and not breed to risk health problems.

That's not the same as getting a pedigree whatever and a poodle, and mating them for a quick buck. There are loads of mutts in rescue, and we have enough existing dog breeds, no need to make more.

And incidentally I STILL HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YHE PURPOSE OF THE OP WAS?????? But I do t think the op knows diddly about dogs or dog welfare.

needastrongone Wed 02-Jan-13 14:25:36

Feels really bad about buying our pedigree Springer recently from a breeder who only breeds when they want another dog, then breeds only once from a bitch, waiting list and careful selection of father!!

However, he could not be more loved and adored, he will have everything that we can give him in terms of love, training and attention. He will have a forever home with us, he has given us so much already.

Still have guilt though reading these posts smile

Preferthedogtothekids Wed 02-Jan-13 14:09:29

Broadsheetbabe, you are mistaken about designer dogs being 'hybrids'. They are not, a hybrid is cross between two species, and domestic dogs are just one species, just in different shapes.

vnmum Sun 30-Dec-12 18:14:25

If there was a like button on MN, i would press it for your post lteve

LtXmasEve Sat 29-Dec-12 22:19:15

Did you rescue him? If so, great. If you bought him then you're clearly no dog lover

This ^^

With the RSPCA alone killing 32 dogs a day, and Pounds killing even more, I have no time for breeders of any dogs, other than those whose breed is about to die out (like the Otterhound, only 38 registered last year, versus almost 29K Labradors - and guess what an Otterhound looks like?)

My Mutt is a crossbreed that I rescued. If I had gone to a BYB she'd have been called a 'Sprollie', cost me maybe £300 and another dog would have died in a pound...

BehindLockNumberNine Sat 29-Dec-12 22:05:19

I just snorted tea out of my nose at the pooinger! grin

I have a whippet lurcher. That is to say he is a whippet with something else mixed in. My current thinking is that he is whippet x cat x bat. He is no dog, that's for sure.
And we rescued him <polishes halo>

MacaroniAndWalnut Sat 29-Dec-12 22:00:09

Where is op? Perhaps she's been eaten by her pooinger

Rhinestone Sat 29-Dec-12 16:55:22

What a ridiculous thread.

I'm glad you're enjoying your lovely mongrel, I love mongrels too. They're the best dogs.

Did you rescue him? If so, great. If you bought him then you're clearly no dog lover.

And by the way, the dictionary definition of mongrel is any dog with parents from different breeds.

TheHoneyDragonsDrunkInTheIvy Sat 29-Dec-12 09:09:03

No one has said all dog breeders are ruthless

broadsheetbabe Sat 29-Dec-12 08:32:56

The springerdoodle is created by crossing the English springer spaniel with the poodle.

It is considered a hybrid dog, meaning it is not purebred, however the lineage is known.

Whereas the term mongrel is used when a dog has an unknown lineage.

Not all dog breeders are ruthless. You are quite wrong to say they are.

I would suggest that many of the breeders of the mongrels and staffordshire bull terriers sat in rescues have not been particularly responsible.

judefawley Fri 28-Dec-12 23:15:58

Lovely, I'm sure!

Surely it's a 'mongrel' and nothing wrong with that.

TheHoneyDragonsDrunkInTheIvy Fri 28-Dec-12 23:13:13

Weary. Not wary.

TheHoneyDragonsDrunkInTheIvy Fri 28-Dec-12 23:12:55

I still really don't get the point of the op though? Lots of doghouse regulars have successful well trained crossbreeds.

There are no doubters of cross breeds. Just people wary of the damage caused by reckless breeding to turn a fast buck.

Whippoorwhill Fri 28-Dec-12 22:46:15

I don't get the fashion for 'designer' dogs. What is wrong with a nice Springer or a lovely poodle? Then again I'm a Curly Coated Retriever owner and get quite cross every time someone asks if my dog is a Labradoodle. smile

At the puppy training classes there is a miniature Labradoodle, a Sprocker, a Cockerpoo, a Clumberpoo and Pug/Chihuahua cross (Chug maybe???), the only two non designer dogs is Pupiranha and a lovely little Border Collie.

vnmum Fri 28-Dec-12 21:42:32

In reality they are all just 'crossbreeds'. Unfortunately, people paying money for them as 'designer' breeds just encourages people, who probably know very little about breeding dogs, breed for profit.

Djwkin Fri 28-Dec-12 21:34:32

I have a springer doodle - mum was a springer, dad a miniature labradoodle. I also have a lurcher - mix of greyhound, whippet, collie and Bedlington. Guess which one was harder work.

Djwkin Fri 28-Dec-12 21:33:10

I have a springer doodle - mum was a springer, dad a miniature labradoodle. I also have a lurcher - mix of greyhound, whi

poachedeggs Fri 28-Dec-12 18:50:03

Some say the 'oodle' suffix relates to how much money the breeder makes from them, rather than their breeding ;)

broadsheetbabe Fri 28-Dec-12 18:47:26

Macaroni, they are also known as sproodles.

The term 'doodle' is applied to all poodle crosses.

I have a cocker/springer cross. He's adorable, full on and super expensive because he was bred for profit and has many health issues. Also, he likes to injure himself in imaginative ways and the vet now refers to us as 'frequent fliers' blush.

MacaroniAndWalnut Fri 28-Dec-12 18:36:35

Surely it should be a springoodle

The d comes from the Labrador bit

The oodle from poodle

No d in springer or poodle

Springoodle or mongrel

poachedeggs Fri 28-Dec-12 18:25:41

I don't think anyone doubts designer breeds any more than they doubt mongrels.

Lots of valid doubts about the motivations of the breeders though ...

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