Cross Breeds. What is your opinion.(153 Posts)
Sites like Many Tears for me are the reason why I'm not keen on designer crosses (plus the ridiculous names, what on earth is wrong with saying that your dog is a cross between two breeds?). All those dogs bred because they were thought to be the in thing and then abandoned when demand wasn't quite what was expected.
I grew up with a pedigree Springer, followed by an unexpected Collie (champion working stock but incredibly nervous), what my mum calls a 'London black' and now have a lovely smallish mutt. My sister has a pedigree mini Schnauzer and my brother a Golder Retriever from I suspect a backyard breeder (health problems seem consistent).
My view is that dogs temperaments depend more on their families than anything else. Oh and that my dog is the best
There are loads of lovely dogs out there needing new homes MrsDeVere, I'm sure you'll find one that fits your family.
It's not cross breeds themselves
It's the back yard breeders who deliberately put 2 dogs together with the express intention of making a cute sounding dog that they can charge people a lot of money for.
Back yard breeders do not in general know a great deal about the health of the dogs. They are not interested in the welfare of the puppies. They do not check what type of home they go to, whether the persons lifestyle is suitable for a puppy, and if there is a problem with the pup, or as in many cases the person gets the puppy home and discovers how much hard work it is and can't be bothered with it,the BYB is not going to take the puppy back or work with the owner to try and rehome.
So the puppy ends up in a rescue.
You only have to look at how many staffies are in rescue or put to sleep but irresponsible BYB continue to breed them and people continue to buy them.
The latest craze seems to be for these "doodle" dogs. So because unscrupulous breeders know they can cash in on this craze, they put these 2 breeds together without much thought or planning, without much thought for the welfare of the dogs or puppies. And people continue to buy them. And then continue to stick them in rescue or have them PTS.
It's supply and demand isn't it?
My very first dog was a staffy x boxer. He was a rescue, well they have all been rescues. Ive got not problem with x breeds, it's just the unscrupulous BYB who can't wait to cash in on the latest fashion.
mrsD there are quite a few rescues that will rehome to families with younger DCs, depending on your circumstances.
You aren't too far away from where I live, if you want another rescue (you know you do) I can give you some details?
Go on, get another dog
What sort of dog do you want?
Both my dogs are mutts. Not rescues but from unplanned litters. Both brilliant dogs. One is healthy as anything, the other has a chronic disease which will kill her. I love all dogs but hate all the designer breed rubbish. I'm a vet nurse and it always amazes me how people will pay a fortune for a "designer" crossbreed and yet don't have the money to pay for its vet bills. It also drives me mad that people are purposely breeding these crossbreeds when the rescue centres are packed with crossbreeds but people don't want them as they don't have a stupid made up name. Grrrr! And for the record we see just as many designer breeds with health problems as we do pedigree dogs.
The problem I had is that the majority of no tears dogs are the other side of the country.
That's a five hour plus drive or as I don't drive over a hundred pound by train just to go and have a look.
We went to local rescues instead but none had puppies.
What we have decided instead is that we will never get another dog
I got a 16 week puppy from Battersea ( now 2.5) . He was just a small black mutt ,he turned into what looks like a scruffy Patterdale. He is the perfect family dog as long as you keep him away from anything small and furry ! He was the best £95 we ever spent ! Our local dog walking field is full of designer doodles and they also seem lovely but I like many other posters can not understand why people pay more for a Xbreed than they would for a pedigree. What's wrong with just getting a poodle if you want a curly dog ?
YY to everything Tantrums said, especially It's the back yard breeders who deliberately put 2 dogs together with the express intention of making a cute sounding dog that they can charge people a lot of money for
Accidental matings should be 'free to a good home' or given to a rescue with a hefty donation. Back yard breeders - and I include in that expression anyone who purposely crosses 2 breeds to make cutsie named puppies - should be heavily fined, in fact fined more than they were intending to make out of the puppies. Maybe that would stop them.
I've had 4 dogs since I was an adult. 3 were/are Mutts, one pedigree. A collie/lab we found in the street in NI. A JRT/corgi from Dogs Trust. MuttDog is a Collie/Springer/?? From Many Tears and RottDog from a local independant rescue. I paid nothing for the first dog, £100 donation for the second, £160 donation for the third and nothing for RottDog (she had issues and was driving the rescue demented!)
I don't understand why anyone would pay £300/£400/£500 for a bloody mutt, and think it is disgusting that BYBs charge that sort of amount.
(as an aside, many years ago I wanted a Saluki, but the only breeder I could find in the UK wanted almost £1k for one. I am astounded to see one at Many Tears . If RottDog wasn't so ill I would be in there like a shot)
Ok. Im going to keep my eye open for you
Between me, my mum and my dd, we volunteer at 4 rescue centres and we are also dog fosterers. I shall find you the perfect dog
It's a shame you are not looking for a staffy, there are thousands of the poor things waiting to be rehomed.
Do people really not like the idea of cross breeds? I have more of a problem with over bred pedigrees with limited gene pools, mutations that mean that they can't give birth naturally and have to undergo anaesthetics that put them under great risk because they can't fucking breath (my sil has this particular breed, ive begged her to get hers speyed because she doesn't intend to breed from her (i dont believe her) and im worried about complications for the dog).
I think cross breeds are a good thing, i have two of them sat on my feet just now I have also owned pedigree dogs, two rotties, one i bought as a pup and the other was a rescue. My second rottie died from bone cancer at 4 yo, a common rottie disease. My first one lived to be 12 which is a good age for a large pedigree dog. Cross breeds live forever in comparison, well some do, some don't but you know what i mean.
I guess there is an argument that with a pedigree you have an idea of what the dogs temprement will be like, if you have a cross you might not be sure of its heritage etc.
So i'll just sit on the fence for this one.
tantrums all you have to do is convince MrsDeVere that a staffie isn't REALLY a terrier (which of course it is, but you can get staffie that don't have the bull terrier bit on the end can't you - you CAN can't you) because otherwise a staffie, or stafford as they are otherwise known sounds like it fits your criteria perfectly Mrs D They aren't all mental
ok, most of them are, but hey and staffs (another name for one that isnt a terrier) will cope very well with general noise and mayhem and not be cowed by it like some "toy" breeds will.
I think it's odd that they have silly names and people who've bought them dislike the silly names.
Oh so were talking "designer" dogs rather than cross breeds - well, if people want to pay £££s for a cross breed thats their lookout i suppose. Saying that i did pay £250 for my Border terrier x patterdale (that i knew the mother wasn't a full BT because i have eyes and im not an idiot) but i just liked set up better than all the pedigree BTs i had seen, mother was friendly etc etc. So people paying money for the right dog, fine, but paying over the odds just so that it can have a silly name - labradoodle, cockapoo etc is just plain daft. But i might pay money for a Shit poo or a Bull shit
"but paying over the odds just so that it can have a silly name" Seriously? Do you know anyone who has really done that? And of so, more fool them.
nkf Why odd? You're buying the dog, not some stupid label.
I love cross breeds and mongrels. I have three of them in my house atm, tow lurchers and a terrier mix.
Like Tantrums it is the breeders I cannot stand, not the dogs themselves. Making money from your pet dog without doing all the necessary checks, ensuring the bitch and pups have all the relevant vet care and making damn sure your puppies go to a good home and insisting on taking them back should the home fail, is abhorrent imo. Not only because it shows the 'breeders' think of of their bitch as a way of making quick cash, but also because they are adding to the wider problem of there being too many dogs and not enough good homes for no reason other than cash.
The 'oodle dogs bother me more because they are nothing more than an expensive fashion accessory, often bought for the wrong reason and by the wrong people just because they are 'cute' - they serve no purpose that is not already fulfilled by the breeds we already have. They are not healthier than pedigrees. A cross breed can have inherent health issues from either parent breed.
Too many people have jumped on the bandowagon now and these poodle crosses are going the way of the staffy. There are too many of them being bred with no thought as to what happens to the puppy after the 'breeder' has made their money.
I don't mind the people who buy these dogs unwittingly because they fall for the propaganda and blindly believe they can find a good breeder (there are no reputable breeders of cross breed dogs) but those who buy the dogs despite knowing these facts, simply because they feel entitled to buy whatever dog they want regardless of it's welfare or that of it's parents are almost as bad as the breeders themselves.
Staffy pups are bonkers. I can't even pretend otherwise
LittleDog, 7 months old is, as I write this, following the cat. He has been following the cat for 25 minutes. Every time the cat turns round and looks at him, he runs away, hides under the table for 30 seconds, wriggles across the floor on his stomach and then resumes following the cat.
This game never gets boring. But in a minute the cat will get pissed off and go through the bars of the stair gate to escape.
So then LittleDog will sit there crying for 5 minutes and then go and jump on BigDogs back to wake him up.
And then he will run away from him and run round the garden for half an hour.
He is quite mad. BigDog is lovely though, not mad at all.
They grow out of it.
Oh don't worry, i will find you the perfect dog
Oh bloody hell. Me and DD have just spent half an hour on MT and between us have come up with a list of 12 that we want. This.is.not.good.
There is a dog at the rescue that I am so tempted to bring home.
I keep looking around thinking where I could put him.
We want another one, but not yet. RottDog was a result of my rescue owner friend phoning up and saying "this bloody dog is driving me DEEMENTED, can you come and take her out for a couple of hours?"
She never went back.
It's only been a couple of years but she has been worth it, just wish we could have kept her longer. She's been spoilt rotten by us though, so cannot be too sad. She has had a great life with us.
I reckon once she's gone I'll get another phonecall - friend is sneaky like that
I've broken it gently to dh that we may end up with another dog in 12 - 18 months. If my
family member acquaintance persists in getting the breed of dog (epicly bouncy) as a puppy in a house where everybody works and has clubs.
LittleDog was a 3 week foster
4 months ago
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