Cross Breeds. What is your opinion.(153 Posts)
i have had rescue pedigree and rescue cross breed. no difference. more important to me they are from a rescue
I have nothing against them and am a bit at people who do, especially when they go on about the price of them and more specifically irresponsible breeders. << As in there are plenty of irresponsible breeders, pedigree and non, so don't understand why anyone would home in on cross breed breeders itms.
I suspect people with strong opinions are too busy throwing punches on that other thread at the moment.
But knowing the doghouse as I do, I'll be really surprised if this can be a calm, rational discussion.
(I have a cockapoo and will not apologise for the fact)
I don't know what the problem is. I've worked with dogs in the past and often would see one which would be 'my type'. They were invariably never pedigrees, but IMO, lots cuter and had great personalities. There are very few pedigrees that do it for me tbh.
Although, I don't mind breeders breeding labradoodles etc, if they do all the pre-mating tests, and are doing it in a controlled manner without churning out a litter of pups per bitch each year.
I think mongrels are the best dogs evah! I've only ever had mongrels, but Dh had a lovely Golden, and I can understand why you'd want a dog like that now.
I think it's the not neutering, unwanted puppy making that gets people going more than the thought of mongrels.
Also, if you do have a job in mind, I assume pedigree dogs are better, just because they are bred for that purpose. Not that any individual might excel, but if you have a collie, you know what you're getting. (or should).
I agree that many people in the rescue world don't like the designer mutts because as first generation mixes, they aren't as predicable, and if popular for looks may be more likely to be abandoned/neglected as owners may be getting for the wrong reasons.
I think that most people who seem to have a problem with crossbreeds actually have a problem with unregulated breeding.
If dogs are randomly crossed there is no way to know anything about their medical background, an ethical breeder should only breed dogs with the best potential of health and the highest chance of avoiding hereditary diseases.
If dogs are randomly crossed it is harder to predict their behavioural and exercise requirements, so how can new owners attempt to get a dog to suit their lifestyle?
Most breeders that breed crosses do so without carrying out any of the health checks required for the individual breeds. If the breeder of your Chi x did, they are definitely the exception not the rule.
Many breeders of crosses appear to be in it purely for the money and in fact many of them are bred in puppy farms and the home the buyer visits is just a front.
The KC is far from perfect but there is absolutely no regulation regarding the breeding of crosses so breeders can do what they like with a bitch, starting her too young and breeding to the point of exhaustion.
Of course there are some mad dog people who just think crossbreed are inferior but I think that they are in the minority, although sometimes very vocal minority.
Is that what you wanted to know MrsDV?
No bun fight from me and I have no problem with cross breeds at all . But I have a major problem with people selling cross breeds at ridiculous prices and claiming them to be a breed eg labradoodles etc.
Matings from backyard breeders just out to make money and cashing in on the latest fashion is a major problem. There is definitely more backyard breeders in the "fashion matings".
However I think there should be a ban on all breeding of dogs until the number of dogs in rescue is lower.
I don't see why rescues wouldn't consider you. I know you have one young child but www.manytears.co.uk are willing to home if a suitable dog is on their books. I'm sure other rescues would too. I love some of the "street" dogs that are being rescued by organisations like www.romaniaanimalaid.co.uk/, www.streetdogrescue.com/ and k-9angels.org/. There are many more! I'd much rather have rescue mutt than a pedigree which cost so much and are liable to so many inherited diseases. I reckon if a dog has managed to survive on the streets of Romania then they're going to be pretty damn tough!
I don't think anybody actually has an issue with crossbred dogs themselves - just unregulated breeding, of any type of dog.
tabulahrasa I think you'll find that plenty of people on here do have an issue with crossbreeds!
I'll tell you what my issue is with them - that people seriously think we choose them for the bloody silly names. To my mind, that's the most embarrassing thing - having to admit mine's technically called a cockapoo. Two rude names in one. I tend to just say spaniel/poodle cross nowadays.
Crossbreed fine. Accidents do happen. Situation isn't brilliant, but as long as owner takes proper responsibility than it's all good for the dog and the owner. Look at the poor mnetter whose dog came out of kennels pg.
Wanting a specific crossbreed "designer dog" and paying more than you would pay for a Pedigree that has been bred for the love of the breed, not so good. Pick a pedigree and investigate it. Don't hope for a magic dog that is the best of both breeds.
If you have a £1000 and really can't decide between a poodle and a retriever get one of each
Oh and I don't blame the people who think they want these dogs. After all they've been led to believe they will be getting a healthier dog as its cross bred and a socialised puppy because its from a "family home".
I blame the perpetrators of those myths though.
"led to believe?"
That implies that we're all dimwits who have no minds of our own in orer to be able to suss out facts/propeganda for ourselves.
I'm under no illusions about the health or otherwise of my dog. As it happens he's disgustingly chipper and in fine fettle. Also, he has the most fantastic temperament, but I like to think that that's because of how we've dealt with him. But he came out of the tin nice as well.
I accept that we may have just been lucky.
weretricks Been there, done that!
But if I had a pound for every time I've been stopped and had the Monstrous One cooed over and coveted I'd be a rich woman.
I did not call any one a dimwit
But I don't think having a go at some one who has a "designer dog" as I have seen on FB very recently fair.
It's one of those things people are told as gospel. They are the healthier option.
Its just the same as when people say if you buy a pedigree you are guaranteed a dog with a good temperament.
As all the dogs I've had have been cross breeds (rescue not intentional) I'm kind of biased
If I could pick a dog (rather than rescue) I would go for a lab collie cross every time.
I love my cross breed <ruffles bastard spaniel's ears>. I don't love the fact that he was bred on purpose so that the breeders could jump on the 'cute name' band wagon with no regard for his resulting health. I never refer to him as a 'sprocker', always a springer/cocker cross. I have seen 'sprockers' on Preloved being sold at £500-600 a pup. That's madness. I meet a lot of pups on the school run with cutesy 'designer' names. They are lovely dogs, but the prices some people are paying for a cross breed are .
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