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FiveHoursSleep Sun 16-Sep-12 18:42:51

If not, could this be one, please?
We have just agreed to offer a home to a 6 week old GSD x collie? pup whose mum was rescued from an Irish dog pound.
We pick him up in a couple of weeks. Time to drag out the crate and chew toys...
He's living in a kennel atm with his mum and siblings so we''l be starting from the top when it comes to toilet training too.
Who else has new puppies and what stage are you up to with them?

ijustwant8hours Wed 03-Oct-12 14:35:36

Fan, mine looks aggressive too. Maybe it is a border thing. I don't think he is as aggressive as he looks though - small dog syndrom or something!

FiveHoursSleep Wed 03-Oct-12 14:41:35

For those of you who want leave your dogs sometimes, now's the time to chat to other dog walkers in the park and see if they can recommend someone who does 'doggy daycare' and can do the odd walk if you need them.
Because we have an older dog, we have this option once the pup has had all his vaccinations, and it makes a difference knowing you 'can' go out now and again.

fanoftheinvisibleman Wed 03-Oct-12 14:45:34

I'll have to get some 8 hours, I don't have it in as I'm allergic to it and ds has eczema.

I think it's definitely a barky terrier thing that makes them look aggressive and combine it with the ordinary puppy snapping and it looks a little scary! Ours is a dark grizzle and is still very dark. He's already mastered a naughty look where he looks down with eyes looking up so you can see the whites of his eyes in his little dark face. To be fair in general I do think he is very sweet, he's just pushing his luck and is probably ready to explore the big wide world. He's asleep on my knee being cute Mario again now. Sure I've got two different dogs here!

FiveHoursSleep Wed 03-Oct-12 16:03:27

What are your puppies favourite toys? Am looking for some ideas for new toys atm.

ijustwant8hours Wed 03-Oct-12 16:51:33

Anything belonging to the kids! Flowerpots...

He really likes soft toys at the moment (so he can kill them) he likes a rope pull and a toddlers rain maker is quite good. The best toy by far at the moment though is a football, its great for tiring him out in the garden!

applegate Wed 03-Oct-12 20:12:21

can I join? we are getting our puppy tommorrow morning. He is an 8 week old springer spaniel, we have waited a long time to get him and are sooo excited. Bed, crate toys etc all ready for him, now just got to wait until the morning!!
Any tips for journey home, I will be on my own with ds and puppy and have got an extra large cat basket for him... have your puppies travelled well, the journey is about an hour?

fanoftheinvisibleman Wed 03-Oct-12 21:01:47

Hi applegate. Our puppy had a journey of about an hour and we also used a cat carrier. Dh collected him on his own after work. He put him in the passenger footwell where he could talk to him and see him. Puppy went to sleep. Good luck tomorrow.

Toys wise ours likes rope toys, squeaky balls and soft toys to kill.

ijustwant8hours Wed 03-Oct-12 21:36:36

Hi Applegate, good luck for tomorrow! My gran used to have springers, they were lovely (barmy, but lovely!).

The pup managed not to chew DH's feet tonight so we are doing quite well. DH didnt mention rehoming him and has put a reminder up to get insurance!

fanoftheinvisibleman Wed 03-Oct-12 22:12:26

That's great Bhours. Small steps!

Ours is now getting short shrift for any growling or barking. I instantly turn my back on him now and he doesn't like it. He's suddenly cute licky pup desperate to make friends so hopefully it will get the message through.

applegate Thu 04-Oct-12 08:24:10

oh brilliant I had wondered whether to put him in the boot or not but I think after fanoftheinvisibleman's advice I will go for the car footwell. fingers crossed for a good journey!

tabulahrasa Thu 04-Oct-12 08:36:39

Check if the carrier has bits for a seatbelt, mine does so I strapped him in the passenger seat, again he slept most of the way home.

I took my monster to a puppy party at the vets last night - it was mortifying...

There was a toy poodle and what I assume was a cockerpoo or similar, two tiny fluffy things anyway, a mini dachshund and the calmest lab pup I've ever met - all sat quietly, looking round interestedly. And then there's mine, alternating between trying to chew the handbag of the person next to me and throwing a bitey growly tantrum because I wouldn't let him down to play with the tiny puppies. hmm

He got about 20 seconds on the floor before he terrified the toy poodle by putting his giant paw on it, so him and the lab were dispatched to another room where thankfully the lab was quite happy to play rough with him.

I felt like that parent at playgroup, lol

ijustwant8hours Thu 04-Oct-12 12:14:00

That will be me in a couple of weeks!

doublemocha Thu 04-Oct-12 13:05:55

oh tabulahrasa, you story made me giggle I am afraid. Our friends took their Vizsla to puppy classes, said it was like have Donkey from Shrek with them instead of a dog! I fancy puppy classes for socialisation but also fancy some formal gundog training of some sort, even obedience training etc when he gets to 6 months or so, make the most of his working roots etc. Whether I ever get round to doing it will be another matter!

Hubby grumbling today about having to puppy proof the garden, it's quite a big garden (maybe 1/3 acre?) backing straight into woodland, it will take a fair bit of time! Very lovely but tons of furry tailed critters burying their nuts and generally doing their thing to tempt a hunting dog beyond the boundaries. Do they do this immediately? Would I be safe with a long lead or even off lead with me in the garden supervising when he's really little?

Was hoping that one of the kids will hold our puppy when we collect him, we do have a travel crate (we have lots of new and exciting puppy related gear!) but possibly a touch large for a small pup to go into immediately with getting used to it. Mmmm...

fanoftheinvisibleman Thu 04-Oct-12 21:09:43

Tabulahrasa, that just sounds so funny!

I definitely need training classes. We've lost the plot a little tonight, pup and I.

Dh was only home an hour and went straight out. Puppy has slept less today and has been full on and barky. We had visitors too for half hour as dh on way out. Puppy ended up so excitable by time it was just ds and I that he was just uncontrollable. He launched himself at me doing his currently growly thing and has bit a hole in my dress. Lucky it was that and not my chest!

I have had to crate him to put ds to bed. He is quiet in there and I'm ashamed to say that I'm leaving him there for 10 minutes whilst I calm down. Trouble is, I know getting him out is going to require a garden trip and that where his snarly barking is worst when I have to pick him up to do the steps. He is so small and I end up picking him up, I think he is starting to rebel.

I'm aware that it is me who needs training more than him! I've just no idea what the 'right' thing is to do when he gets like that. Oh and no visitors tomorrow, that's for sure. He was lovely yesterday too with my friends children. He will hate me tomorrow though anyway...vets!

ijustwant8hours Thu 04-Oct-12 21:37:44

Hey Fan, my pup has gone barmy tonight, maybe something in the air!

He is usually asleep in my lap by now but tonight he is just going ballistic, barking, biting, growling,snarling. I am going to have to crate him - can't take itsad.

fanoftheinvisibleman Thu 04-Oct-12 22:11:49

I'm taking heart 8hours that all the adult Borders I've ever come across have been lovely so surely this is just a puppy thing? Is yours big enough to do steps and things as I know they are the same age? Mine just seems dinky but I'm not sure how big they usually are at this age. I think I need to moderate my behaviour and stop picking him up so much as I think it is giving him a napoleon complex! Hard when he can't do steps though and to be honest it's just easy to physically move him when he decides to treat my ankle like a prize rat he's just caught. So badly need training classes, even when you think you've read well, it goes out the window doesn't it when you're under attack from piranha dog.

I opened his crate and he climbed straight on my lap ,another problem to be honest as he wants me to be 'available' all the time and struggles to understand when I'm not. God help my mum on monday when I'm back at work and she has him. Anyway, as soon as I put him down to tidy up he slunk back into his crate and is still there so I've had a quiet evening so far.

ijustwant8hours Thu 04-Oct-12 22:48:43

He can do the step into the kitchen (he takes a running jump), but he cant go upstairs. I pick him up all the time too, to get him from a to b and to protect peoples ankles!

I know what you mean about classes! I havent read anywhere that picking up your dog and trying to physically wrench him from your trousers is recommended, but i end up doing it all the time!

He has passed out now, is farting horribly!

fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 05-Oct-12 09:19:04

They sound similar then as he can launch himself at the step into the conservatory and go flying over! The steps into garden are possibly a touch deeper than the stairs though too.

I'm glad we are at the vets this morning to be honest. I've taken the switch between eukanuba and jwb really slow (still adding a little eukanuba) but the more jwb I've added the runnier his poo has got. Now doing 20g jwb and 5g eukanuba and he has liquid poo. Poor puppy. I don't know if I'm supposed to give it time or if this means it doesn't suit him? Worst is that he was happy eating the eukanuba with a spoonful of wet on top but I'd already bought the jwb by then.

Do you know I never worried about what ds ate this much and he has food allergies! It's ridiculous.

fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 05-Oct-12 09:28:52

Oh and DH has just gone to the garage...we are finally getting our car back after it broke down the night before puppy collection. Hurrah! And the best news is that it was repairable without a new engine. First time we've been delighted to be spending £390 repairing the car!

ijustwant8hours Fri 05-Oct-12 11:35:41

They do seem to have very dodgy tummies, we are on all dry jwb and he doesnt seem to bad but we do occaisionally have a runny one. Was the vet useful?

My pup just savaged me! Drew blood on my hand, it was sheer anger as well as I was trying to get him off my trouser leg. He has been awful this morning, I know I shouldnt use the crate as a punishment but I have had to put him away from me.

Mosman Fri 05-Oct-12 12:50:51

I have a 8 week cocker spaniel asleep in my lap she's probably knackered after all the 3am howling and barking she did.
Any tips on resetting her body clock to sleep through the night please? I am goosed.

fanoftheinvisibleman Fri 05-Oct-12 13:17:04

Vet said that the fact it has got progressively worse as I've increased the mix means it probably doesn't suit him. She advised dropping it immediately and going back to eukanuba.

He started barking at her too! She said that he seems to be a dominant nature and that it's often the case with terriers but says he should be fine with a firm hand. She gave me the number of the lady who does puppy parties and training at the vets so I'll do that. She also recommended the old eating after us, not being first through the door etc. Stuff we do anyway.

Bad news is that they use a different brand of vaccine to what he had with the breeder. So he's going to need another in another two weeks so we are further delayed with freedom too.

Can't really be any help to you Mosman as mine has been a good sleeper.

applegate Sat 06-Oct-12 06:23:45

So after poor puppy being really sick on the way home he has settled in really well. But I wondered if anyone had any tips for night time?? On the first night I took him out for a wee at 11 and then put him in his crate and ignored the crying sad, he only cried for about 10 minutes before going to sleep, he started again at 2 and after 10 minutes I took him out he had a quick wee and went back to sleep after a few minutes crying and then slept until 6.45, so i was really pleased.
Last night similar routine at 11, woke again at 1.30 out for a quick wee after 10 min crying, and then up at 5.45 crying lots until he wentout for a wee. We have now got up,I felt a bit mean to put him back in his crate as he obviously thought it was morning, even if I didn't!! He hasn't had any accidents in his crate which is great but this is the first time we have had a puppy and I don't know whether I should be getting up or am I better to leave him a bit longer before taking him out overnight??? Tips or advice??.

tabulahrasa Sat 06-Oct-12 08:29:22

It depends really, some people get up, I don't...

Firstly his crate's too big anyway (if I was doing proper crate training I should have partitioned it off) so he has his bed and somewhere to go to the toilet and I sleep badly anyway so I decided that I could live with housetraining possibly taking longer for the trade off of not getting up through the night.

And, I go to bed between half 12 and half 1 and my DP gets up at about quarter past 6, so his night isn't very long anyway.

He only cried in the middle of the night once anyway though and not on the first night...he did for the first two weeks though, pee at the door of his crate and he hasn't since, that could have gone on much longer so I've been lucky with that.

He still doesn't ask to go out to the toilet at all though (though I discovered yesterday that if the back door is open he just pops outside himself with no acidents the whole time).

It's supposed to be much easier and quicker if you never give then the chance to go to the toilet inside and get up in the night for the first while though - so its an up to you type thing.

ijustwant8hours Sat 06-Oct-12 10:54:30

Hi, glad he is settling in!

I dont crate my pup overnight so he doesn't wake me up but there is a lake of wee to clear up in the morning! I plan to keep him in overnight after he is 12 weeks or so.

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