Supernanny 17th august

[charliecat]

Whos watching this?

[charliecat]

Geesus. I thought my dd was a nightmare.

[TwoIfBySea]

OMG that little girl is psychotic! I feel so sorry for the mum, I don't think I have ever seen a little girl with such aggression.

Glad I've got boys now!

[charliecat]

I dont know what id do if my dd was like that she has her moments but goodness me.

[lucy5]

Wow, shes got her work cut out this week.

One question i have that i havent seen addressed although I could have missed it is, what happens if your child wont stay in the reflection room/naughty chair? Do you just keep taking them back? If you havent already guessed my dd is a stong willed little bugger. Luckily shes not too naughty.

[charliecat]

Take them back over and over again till they realise they are going to have to stay there for x amount of time

[lucy5]

oh god I thought that might be the answer.

[Mum2girls]

She has to be one of the most dislikeable children ever featured.

[charliecat]

brought tears to my eyes the vicious circle that was happening.

[TwoIfBySea]

Lucy I just send dst (age 3 1/2) back to the naughty corner and start the time again. They learned that pretty quickly and stay where they are now even if they are throwing a wobbly while they stand there!!!

This little girl needs help beyond Supernanny, there is something seriously wrong with her. Even when she speaks normally there is such hatred in her voice, perhaps a counsellor or psychiatrist. I think this is a step further than just kids playing up or out of control. I'd certainly be seriously worried if my child acted in such a way, especially to a stranger.

[lucy5]

How old is she? I cant believe my eyes!

[TwoIfBySea]

Oh and Lucy your dd will get the message, my two certainly did and now just the mention of the naughty corner (first warning) has results!

[yingers74]

I am watching it and I really feel for the mum. I have one dd and another is on the way, I thought girls were easier than boys but am not sure now!!!! Am a little scared!! Really hope the nanny helps as the mum is struggling so much! And yes although she is only 9, she is not very likeable, cannot believe she called nanny a b8tch.

[FairyMum]

Have to say I don't like these programmes. Have the children agreed to be displayed on tv like this? So people can talk about how horrible they are? Seems like children have no right to privacy. I find these programmes totally unethical and the Nanny looks evil.

[lucy5]

Good point fairymum, i hadn't thought about it like that.
Twoifby I used the naughty stair when dd was smaller and it worked well. i think im going to try again when needed.

[TwinSetAndPearls]

TwoIfByTheSea I agree that Supernanny was out of her depth, the girl did seem psychologically disturbed, more proffessional help was needed and if Supernanny was a proffessional herself she would have recognised this and sought that help before tinkering about with such a family.

Watching the Mum bought tears to my eyes.

[saadia]

I just caught a snippet but agree that it seems there's more to it than just naughtiness with the girl - so unbelievably aggressive. Did they say what she was like at school?

[unicorn]

there was no info re school behaviour, and no history re her past behaviour(has she always been like this etc?)left to conjecture.

That's why I feel these programmes are too simplistic (and voyeuristic)

[puff]

Good point unicorn

[saadia]

Yes I agree unicorn - however badly she behaved she was old enough to know that her privacy was being invaded.

[Hattie05]

Don't you think the parenting nearly always seems to be to blame?

I think too often children are judged for having 'other problems' causing their behaviour. When deep down i'm thinking those other problems could be the parents.

That Mother did sound like one of the children when she was attempting any kind of control, sher responded instantly to any bad behaviour and had got herself in such a state i'm not sure that she ever smiled except when supernanny was giving her a telling off.

[TwinSetAndPearls]

I do agree Hattie, most days when dd is naughty it is because I have been at fault, perhaps not had the energy or will to entertain her, or have snapped at her unairly or not listened. I am sure in this case the mother (and father) had a part to play in the dd behaviour but there did seem to be more than naughtiness here and I think she needed more than sticker charts and time out.

[meggymoo]

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[morocco]

she was exactly like my almost 3 year old can be - don't know if that says anything about either of them - but I thought it was a positive ending as she did seem absolutely loads calmer. I hope it stays that way for all concerned as it seemed an awful way to have to live.

[charliecat]

My dd has moments about half as bad as that girl was, the venom, definetly. Normally because she cant get her own way. But 99% of the times she fine. She just flips sometimes.
Shes an excellently behaved child and instead of being naughty or misbehaving she flips.

[ChicPea]

I wondered if she behaved like this because it guaranteed immediate attention even if it was not enoyable attention. I was waiting for Supernanny to come up with that theory.

I do watch this programme in case I can learn something from it but I always have tears in my eyes when I see the child/siblings/mother suffer and wonder if there is a fine line between order and disorder and it scares me that my 3 and 2 year old could turn out this way. I must hastily add that I am happy and in control so far....!