Age 8 and wanting a sex change

[MuffinToptheMule]

On C4 now. Anyone else watching?

[jobhuntersrus]

yes,open mouthed

[CaptainUnderpants]

yes, why is it that programmes like this always feature people living in USA ?

[QOD]

its just wroooooooooooooooooong!

[lilyjen]

wtf??!

[MuffinToptheMule]

I too am open mouthed. I'm finding it quite sad.

[NoMoreThankYou]

yes, only just tuned in; what have i missed so far?? does he have sisters? what are his parents like??

[fedupintheoffice]

It is sad that these boys were born the wrong gender, but good luck to them and well done to the parents for being so understanding to their children. Josie (the first child) is a very bonny little girl!

[AboardtheAxiom]

Josie is really pretty.

I can't say what I would do in that situation as a parent, it must be so hard for the whole family.

[CaptainUnderpants]

What counselling are these children having to help them cope with all this and make this decision ? Did I miss that bit ?

That kid that didn't realise he would have to have 'shots' to make boobs grow looked really shocked at the prospect . How are they being prepared for all the changes ?

[WUGYouLETMeBiteYourNeck]

I wouldn't get my DDs hair dyed at 8....it was already such a lovely colout as well.

[WUGYouLETMeBiteYourNeck]

colour

[MuffinToptheMule]

I agree, it seems very very hard for everyone.
Why does the mum need to tell the hairdresser that the child was born a boy?

[MuffinToptheMule]

I was agreeing with AboardtheAxiom.

[AboardtheAxiom]

Definately should be having some good counselling shouldn't they that's a good point.

I can't believe they are sned kyla back to the same school as a different sex! Why not a new school were no one knows, she is going to be a real target for bullies.

[CaptainUnderpants]

Didn't they say that alot of children grow out of this 'gender dyshoria' ?

[MavisGrind]

"Josie hasn't let go if his boys toys"

Yes, that's right. As soon as you identify as being a girl you must put away anything blue

Why does gender have to be so distinctive (biology aside)?

[fedupintheoffice]

I wonder why they both look so feminine. When an adult usually changes gender, they still tend to look like their original sex. Both of the girls are absolutely beautiful...little stars!

[EdgarAllenPoo]

i saw the teasers. i think the parents should have delayed until puberty - as things can change drastically then.

[HeSaysSheSays]

Lockets, my ds is 7. At 4 it looked very much like he had GD but at 7 it is clear that he has not, although he does still have some very effeminate ways/preferences.

He went through a lot of these things, however he has not ever fixated on the "problem" of having a penis.

For me the prospect of the potential hurt was awful and the thought of the decisons that would have to be made however it never really crossed my mind that it would be so young so I am watching with a bizarre combination of horror, sympathy, empathy, anger... and more as I am sure you are too!

[AboardtheAxiom]

I also went at the toys comments. As a child I loved climbing trees, building lego builders and my nana's neighbours toy tractor. I was however most definately a girl.

I wouldn't have told the hairdresser my girly looking child was a boy in the middle of the salon either. What did it acheive really?!?

[CaptainUnderpants]

Just picked this up from NHS website.

The symptoms of gender dysphoria usually appear at a very young age. Children may refuse to wear typical boys' or girls' clothes, or dislike taking part in typical boys' or girls' games and activities. In most cases, this kind of behaviour is just a normal part of growing up, but in cases of gender dysphoria, it persists into later childhood, adolescence and adulthood.

Ok so how do they know that it is just not normal children behaviour ? are the parents reading too much from their childrens behaviour , I see no evidence from any experts regarding the indivuals on this programme .

[HeSaysSheSays]

WRT the faces of the children, I think you will find that most children will look fine as the opposite sex if you change their hair, by definition the things that make their gender clear in a visual sense have not happened yet. Puberty brings stronger jawlines, higher cheekbones and so on.