Waking the Dead

[OrmIrian]

There were some things I didn't understand - not helped by going out to the kitchen during whatsisnames 'confession' to Eve.

1. If the investigation was tainted by Eve's association with the chap, why could another force not have gone ahead with it.
2. If those blokes who shot him knew the investigation was tainted why did they have to shoot him? Presumably they were safe.
3. Why did Eve wade out into the water and make him follow her - just for nastiness sake?
4. If he hadn't tempted Eve to start the investigation they wouldn't have found out about all this anyway so it's a bit daft to get all hoity about him for ballsing it up.
5. Why was it OK to 'execute' Stephane (orwhatever his name was??) but leave the other nasty bit of work alone.

I always thought of Boyd's team as unorthodox but ultimately the good guys. Was quite taken aback last night.

[jeee]

And why were the body snatchers allowed to get off? I know that the team were investigating the 1 murder, but surely they should have been arresting people involved in stealing body parts?

[OrmIrian]

That's what I mean. OK they couldn't get anyone for the murder of Bryony thingy but there was still the much bigger crime to be dealt with.

[Thredworm]

It was really nonsense on stilts last night. I like it generally, and I like its disregard for any kind of policing realism. But last night's plot was hysterically, preposterously daft.

[jeee]

Nothing made sense to me last night - but I did turn it off for a few minutes in case Eve had her eyes hacked out. After all, only one person on the team has died this series.

[GooseyLoosey]

I have never watched this before and watched the first part and thought it was quite good. I hated the second part and ended up thinking that everyone in it was at best morally compromised and at worst plain evil. There were no good guys and no sense at all of good triumphing. I like my escapism to be neatly parceled with the good guys winning.

[spongebrainmaternitypants]

Stefan had been stalking Eve for months and deliberately picked her up in the club cos he knew what her job was and wanted to break into the lab and remove his DNA I think, so no one could connect him to the crime. Eve was so upset with him and also was trying to make sure he didn't hurt her, she knew she'd be safe in the water.

As for the ending, god knows why Boyd et al let the bastards go - they surely had enough evidence to bang them up for their heinous crimes?

I have to say I'm finding this series of WTD a bit too gruesome for me - it's giving me nightmares!

[spongebrainmaternitypants]

Lol at nonsense on stilts!!

[Rindercella]

Last week's episodes have stuck with me and I was only half watching while MNing...only a very few programmes manage to do that to me. Didn't really see last night's though, so I'm afraid I can't help with that.

[OrmIrian]

spongebrain - I agree. Tis really nasty! But I do love it. Not many things on TV I'd miss washing-up for let alone anything else tbh but this is one.

[OrmIrian]

I assumed it was because he knew that his relationship with her would compromise any investigation. It would be very unlikely he'd get access to the database.

[Thredworm]

He predicted she would investigate and that her personal involvement would compromise any evidence she obtained. But why would it? -- If she just said 'oh, I think my boyfriend is a murderer and cuts bits out of people' a normal police force would just say 'Righty-ho: you step down and some uninvolved coppers will investigate.'

In Waking the Deal Land there are no other police officers. The little team has to do everything itself.

[OrmIrian]

Tis true thread.

And they all have to go and investigate leads on their own independently of the others. Have none of them watched horror films ?

[GooseyLoosey]

I thought he was stalking Eve because he wanted a relationship with her as he knew that any investigation into Briony's murder would be carried out by the Home Office and if their pathologist had a relationship with him, they would be conflicted if they tried to investigate. It was a bit far fetched.

I could not quite get my head around Eve deliberately allowing Stephan to drown for no better reason than she felt betrayed by him and then Boyd letting the man who had actually committed the murders and the person who had orchestrated them not only get away but murder Stephan. I cannot see how the forces of law and order come out of this any better than the criminals and I don't really like that.

[OrmIrian]

Yes. Totally goosey. I like my baddies to be really bad, and the good guys to be more or less, on balance, all things considered, on the side of right

[notimetotidy]

When this started last night it had the wrong soundtrack on it so the BBC stopped it and started the program again - this means that the last few minutes where missed as I had sky+ it. I have got to the bit where boyd yells at Spencer to get into the car - what happened next? Anyone?

[OrmIrian]

He got in the car!

And then they drove off. Looking variously anguished, determined and stoical. And then there was a single shot.

[notimetotidy]

So that was it then! Thanks OrmmIrian

[twirlymum]

I also think they show far too much of the second episode at the end of the first one, IYSWIM.
Don't really like Eve, or the new girl. Has Sue Johnstone had a facelift?

[lal123]

Last 5 minutes of last nights were nonsense - like the last 5 minutes of every two parter.
my understanding is same as goosey's except that Eve went into the water because she didn't think he'd come after her - I think the not saving him bit was more to do with the fact that he was more guilty than he first admitted rather than him betraying her.

No idea why they let het other bad guys execute him (excpet that they thought that there was no other way of bringing him to "justice") and no idea at all why they let them off

[Saltire]

I think this programe, after last night,has jumped the shark, as they say! No policeman regardless of what other crime he was investigating would let the instigators of a crime whereby body parts are stolen, kill someone else involved and not only that but leave them free!

[pagwatch]

It was all a bit odd wasn't it.
And the bloke who wrote it also directed it which explained the odd direction thing too.
All those shots of Boyd looking really sinister and then the dialogue about taking the boats and swimming ( or whatever it was) was a bit poor mans pulp fiction.

I usually love this programme - especially the scenes with Boyd and Grace - but this is all too odd.

And fwiw poor old Stella had just about the least memeorable writing out/death that I have ever seen.

[FimboFortuna]

Can I just go back to last weeks episode?

How did Boyd get away with breaking into the house?

[twirlymum]

Yes, wasn't Boyd suspended?

[2shoes]

What a non ending