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Derren Brown ... Is it repeated?

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Mosschops30 Sat 07-May-05 21:29:09

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giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 21:47:07

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hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:17:29

I haven't looked to see if there was a Telly Addicts thread on this show, but I found it probably went beyond 'acceptable treatment of a hypnosis client'.... unless the sequence of events has been twiddled around in the editing room.

I don't think it would spoil your enjoyment of the episode if I tell what happened. I'm happy to do that.

Mosschops30 Sat 07-May-05 22:19:02

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hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:21:30

OK, gski: can you handle a spoiler (in terms of a description of what happened - it won't actually spoil it IYSWIM)... I'd be interested to discuss with other viewers what they thought...

giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 22:23:51

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tiffini Sat 07-May-05 22:24:04

Derren Brown, is this the guy who's show is called "trick of the mind"

giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 22:24:16

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giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 22:24:41

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hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:30:59

OK. Super Quick Summary:

Techies had created a 'Doom' / 'Quake' style shoot em up with zombies / ghouls in wedding dresses etc. Installed it into an arcade game in a pub.

Student plus mates comes in, buys a pint, plays game.

During game DB triggers certain flashes into the gameplay on console.

Yoof enters catatonic / sleep state. Friends seems surprised but don't go mental.

DB then puts 'victim' onto stretcher. Wheel him, with mates to a warehousey place (which actually served as the layout for the game).

Puts victim in room.Gives him a big gun (like in the game) and gets evervyone out.

Triggers foghorn sound to 'reawaken' victim and yoof awakes.

On cue, actors wearing zomby suits walk into the set... you know like 'Awakening the dead' style / arms out etc... another actor is playing the 'wedding bride zombie'

Yoof goes mental, scared f*ckless, and shoots everyone (presumably with some kind of paintball gun.

Zombies progress towards him, yoof escapes into little side room, then foghorn sounds to put yoof back in trance.

He's wheeled on the stretcher out of the warehouse, back to the pub and placed infront of the gaming machine.

Yoof is reawakened and then debrief by DB and shown the video footage of him in the warehouse shi**ing himself and him trying to shoot all the zombies.

To avoid being sued (???) all the zombie actors are then introduced to the yoof.

End of.

hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:32:43

(Zombie attack lasted several minutes I think.)

The warehouse appeared to be a minute or so's 'stretcher ride away !

hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:35:24

I think the controversy would be about the state of the yoof and his literally having 'lived' the fantasty of a scary game where lots of dead people were coming forward to posess him and kill him and he basically had to fight for his life...

(Unless, perhaps, the order of events had been played around with to deceive the viewer as to what exactly had happened..., and the kid was an actor doing a job, so to speak, which was filmed, and then DB and staff just did a foghorn hypnosis / out for the count sort of thing, and jiggled around events in the cutting room.

Tetley Sat 07-May-05 22:37:25

I saw this - thought it was horrible & far too far....

I do like Derren Brown usually & thought the stuff he showed on the rest of the programme was, as usual, amazing. But this was just too far to be entertaining. I can't believe his friends didn't stop it - I suuppose that they were under the influence of the TV cameras, but even so, it was a bit much!

Tetley Sat 07-May-05 22:39:54

Fogot to say that whilst discussing with dh we decided that really it was interestimg for shoing how much video games can affect how people respond. In that, he was totally a part of the game & the game had become completely real life to him, but he still shot at people. It seemed acceptable to him to kill people IYKWIM.

hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:42:41

We're led to believe he thought he was killing zombies.

I also expect friends (and yoof) had been hypnotised before hand.

Don't think the arcade game had anything to do with it (maybe the white light flashes were set as a trigger)... his friends didn't react because they'd been primed for this event under hypnosis before hand (perhaps in another student bar)...

giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 22:46:02

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hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 22:51:09

Well, the zombies weren't real...

I hope.

LOL

OK, if yoof wasn't filmed in an acting segment before hand, they could all have still been hypnotised in prior session.

giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 22:53:19

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giraffeski Sat 07-May-05 22:54:14

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CountessDracula Sat 07-May-05 22:55:09

I saw this it was a load of old tosh

If this had really happened to the idiot playing the game then he would have a very strong case against the moron Brown.

No way

hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 23:05:35

gski: If you can find a real zombie, I'll give you 1/2 the £500,000 we'll get from The Sun.

CD: OK, so do you allege either that the yoof in the warehouse wasn't the individual at the machine (ie. twins or whatever)... or that he was acting, in full concisouness during, say, an audition or something ?

CountessDracula Sat 07-May-05 23:07:30

naah think the whole thing is a con.

bunny2 Sat 07-May-05 23:08:27

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hub2dee Sat 07-May-05 23:08:28

ie. you think yoof was acting throughout whole thing ?

CountessDracula Sat 07-May-05 23:09:21

yep

If not he should sue without a doubt - you can't do that to someone, the production company's lawyers wouldn't allow it!

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