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HelenaDove Thu 11-Jul-19 21:22:50

Is anyone else watching?

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BertieBotts Fri 12-Jul-19 16:15:21

I don't know if I should watch it or not - it scares the crap out of me. I was only little so I have no idea if I was eating this stuff or not - but probably. My parents aren't the type to be overly cautious about such things shock

There was a question ages ago on ask reddit which was something about what stuff sounds like science fiction but is actually reality and is fucking terrifying? Prions was one of the answers.

BertieBotts Fri 12-Jul-19 16:16:03

Found it... www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/48ujhq/whats_the_scariest_real_thing_on_our_earth/

HelenaDove Fri 12-Jul-19 20:28:00

Apparently there is a documentary on Prime
Cash Cows and Cover Ups

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heeblejeeble Fri 12-Jul-19 22:32:48

I watched this on catch up today and it's really stuck with me. I'm terrified, I was born in 1990 and I know my mum fed us cheap meat as she couldn't afford anything else. I don't eat meat now but the damage could be done and sitting here in my body waiting, it's utterly terrifying. I'm off to read that reddit thread to scare myself even more :D

The blood transfusions thing scared me too, do they still kill white blood cells in donations does anyone know?

There we are all are banned from donating blood abroad but we're giving it to each other in Britain it's insane. I guess those born after 96/97 will eventually be the majority and the risk will be eradicated completely.

MadamePompadour Fri 12-Jul-19 22:40:53

I don't think the risk will be eradicated completely.

The post 96ers could have been infected by blood transfusion or operations and continue to infect others. And the cycle continues.

How many people are told of the risk when counselled for a blood transfusion. I work in a hospital as a midwife and never heard a single Dr mention it to anyone.

MadamePompadour Fri 12-Jul-19 22:44:40

I remember years ago a post natal women with a hb of 8.5 felt awful and was trying to insist on a transfusion. I explained it's normal a day after giving birth to feel rubbish and iron tablets were safer even if slower.

She was quite sneery as she said everything is screened. I pointed out the risk of transfusions isn't all about infections but also mentioned cjd. That we don't screen for it. She seemed to think I was making the whole thing up.

Firstimpressionsofearth Fri 12-Jul-19 22:58:30

I wish I hadn't watched it..I'm paranoid now me or dh might have it.

And if we are incubating could that have an effect on our kids?

The government fed school kids the brains and spines of brain diseased cows. Not a comic not a movie - real fucking fucked up.

JuniperNarni Fri 12-Jul-19 23:08:10

I just watched this on catch up, I remember seeing the footage on tele as a child and I was absolutely terrified of it and now I am again. I kind of wish I didn't watch it now.

CilantroChili Fri 12-Jul-19 23:33:12

I worked in London 1989 for a couple of years

I can’t donate blood here in Ireland.

HelenaDove Sat 13-Jul-19 00:51:03

From the Telegraph 17/7/2000

Also mentions baby food.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1348917/School-food-may-have-spread-CJD.html

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StarbucksSmarterSister Sat 13-Jul-19 10:37:56

I pointed out the risk of transfusions isn't all about infections but also mentioned cjd. That we don't screen for it.

I'm shocked by this Why isn't it screened for?

PancakeAndKeith Sat 13-Jul-19 10:39:56

I don’t eat meat now and haven’t done for years.
However when the whole BSE thing hit in the 90s I was on the dole and mince was so cheap. I ate loads then.

My family were dairy farmers. They knew that that what they were feeding the cows wasn’t good.

MadamePompadour Sat 13-Jul-19 12:32:06

It's not screened for in blood as it can't be picked up. There's no test. Even in people it can only be confirmed on post mortem.

StarbucksSmarterSister Sat 13-Jul-19 14:50:46

Madamepompadour I have a friend who is a regular blood donor and she swears she was tested for it years ago. So she's mistaken or was fibbed to?

MadamePompadour Sat 13-Jul-19 17:38:39

She's either mistaken or was fibbed to. There's no blood test. Even for people they suspect have it. Unless there's been a major development in the last year or so which I've missed but I don't think so.

StarbucksSmarterSister Sat 13-Jul-19 19:01:32

Thanks.

CoteDAzur Sat 13-Jul-19 19:08:53

"I read the prions aren't killed by standard autoclaving?"

Understandable, since prions are not alive. They are badly folded proteins.

CoteDAzur Sat 13-Jul-19 19:09:58

"also mentioned cjd. That we don't screen for it."

"I'm shocked by this Why isn't it screened for?"

Because they are not in your blood. They are in your brain.

bumblenbean Sat 13-Jul-19 19:13:51

I found the program extremely disturbing. Granted I’m generally a huge worrier anyway but I’m now really freaking out that I could be incubating the bloody thing. Born in the early 80’s and sure I ate plenty of crappy meat at school shock

It’s terrifying that it could be brewing in any one of us and we’d have no bloody idea and there’s absolutely bugger all we can do about it. shudder

PancakeAndKeith Sat 13-Jul-19 19:13:55

Because they are not in your blood. They are in your brain.

So why the refusal of blood from people who lived in the U.K.?

NotAnotherJaffaCake Sat 13-Jul-19 19:17:47

There's been at least as many cases of mad cow disease in France. Their farmers had better PR.

But yes, I am glad I am a lifelong vegetarian. Given that even autoclaving doesn't destroy prions, refusing blood seems sensible.

orangeshoebox Sat 13-Jul-19 19:34:07

I wonder how many dementia patients are misdiagnosed.

btw it's not a new disease. it's been observed in sheep as well. and deer.

AuntieGT Sat 13-Jul-19 19:50:41

I watched half but had to switch off as a friend has recently been diagnosed with cjd. It’s a truly hideous disease. They say theirs is classic rather than variant so not caused by eating infected meat. What I don’t understand though is how they know for sure who has classic and who has the variant? I don’t think dementia would be misdiagnosed as apparently cjd shows up in a very specific way on a scan, it is still very rare. It’s truly terrifying to think that there might be lots of people who are ticking time bombs for this though.

BertieBotts Sat 13-Jul-19 20:11:00

Because it is transmitted by blood, even though it doesn't show up that way. It's like they couldn't screen for HIV before they knew what it was, and HIV doesn't show signs of being in blood until about a year after transmission, yet can still be passed on. So if you've done anything high risk for HIV transmission you must wait a year, then have a clean screening test, before you can donate blood. (unless it's changed)

BouquetNotBucket Sat 13-Jul-19 20:18:40

I looked up about the Kuru illness and apparently some have developed a sort of immunity to it, completely stops the prions from working.
(Or something like that, I’m in no way science minded grin)

Maybe that will happen here?

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