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The Murder Detectives - anyone watching?

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Luckystar1 Tue 01-Dec-15 21:31:39

I fell asleep before the end of last night's blush but watching again tonight, it's just fascinating.

MrsCurly Tue 01-Dec-15 22:35:35

It's amazing. The access and the trust the film-makers had and what they did with it. Spellbinding. The community cop is incredible.

Shirkingfromhome Tue 01-Dec-15 23:06:27

Yes. It's just so sad; teenage boys with their lives ruined. I really felt for the community cop too. I can't believe they didn't find a finger print from the suspect.

Luckystar1 Wed 02-Dec-15 06:12:58

Looking forward to tonight. The poor parents, the funeral was heartbreaking.

The community cop is a credit to the force!

Alfieisnoisy Wed 02-Dec-15 13:04:56

Oh gosh, just watched the first two episodes, how heartbreaking.

Even for the killers family who made some stupid decisions in helping him flee the country. The police officer knew his Mum and said it was so obvious she had always tried to keep her son doing the right things and in a moment of madness she did the wrong thing in helping him try and escape. I think she, his Dad and godmother all went to prison for it.

But the Mum who has lost all her will she cope? I just wanted to reach through the screen to her.

Alfieisnoisy Wed 02-Dec-15 13:22:43

And then I think of the killers' Mum saying "no comment" throughout the interview and my sympathy ebbs somewhat.

Shirkingfromhome Wed 02-Dec-15 13:45:17

I had the same conversation with my DH Alfie he said that the son hadn't been found guilty of anything yet (or even if he is the right person). If the mum admitted she had assisted an 'offender' she's basically saying her son did kill without any further evidence needed.

If there is no evidence to tie him to the scene and he's found not guilty then they haven't assisted an offender. Horrible situation for everyone involved.

Clayhead Wed 02-Dec-15 21:57:40

Such a gripping programme but so, so sad. Nice to see the victim's family having a voice.

MartinRohdesBellybuttonFluff Wed 02-Dec-15 22:06:59

So very sad. What a wonderfully brave and forgiving family and fiancée Nicholas had. What a terrible waste of the young men's lives.

They were three extremely sad programmes and very hard to watch at times, but were compelling viewing.

RIP Nicholas.

Shirkingfromhome Wed 02-Dec-15 22:27:20

I feel so sorry for the daughters / sisters ofLuciana and his parents too. Their mum, dad and brother all locked up. Imagine getting your head around that, going to school, living in that community.

Alfieisnoisy Thu 03-Dec-15 07:23:19

Was very sad.

I've not seen the third one yet as uninterrupted viewing isn't easy so will watch it today.

It struck me how hard it must be for the officer who knew Luchiano and his Mum. He said he wouldn't have thought him capable but was having to face the realisation that he could have done it.

How hard it must be to bring a child up in a community where gangs are rife and try to keep them from becoming involved in that culture. The pressures to become part of that culture must be huge for the kids.

When all is said and done though Luciano has to face what he did and the wrong decisions he made. A young man lost his life as a result and he shouldn't have done.

Still wanted to reach through the screen to Nicholas' Mum and just hold her hand or hug her. Losing three on earth do you cope with that.

May her three sons rest in peace.

I hope she can find her own peace.

stareatthetvscreen Sun 06-Dec-15 02:16:16

so just catching it on catch up- its a drama right? based on a real life story

i thought it was going to be a documentary

IguanaTail Sun 06-Dec-15 02:27:06

No it's a documentary. All original cctv footage. I thought it was going to be a drama too. It's brilliant. Couldn't believe the gloves. Victim's family were utterly dignified.

stareatthetvscreen Sun 06-Dec-15 02:35:24

thanks iguana

sadwidow28 Sun 06-Dec-15 17:23:14

Thanks to Luckystar for the heads up on this programme. I watched the Channel 4 series called THE DETECTIVES last year which covered the 2-year investigation into Ray Teret (Jimmy Savile's driver). Other rape/SA cases came across the desk - and I found that series simply fascinating. One case that was taken to court wasn't proven - in spite of the hard criminal evidence that the police had gathered. That helped me to better understand that the police/CPS work to bring about a conviction, but the case must be proved beyond all reasonable doubt.

Anyway, I have now watched all 3 episodes of MURDER DETECTIVES and my emotions are all over the place! The Mum wanted to know WHY? How hard for the detectives to shatter the Mum's belief that her son was never in trouble or involved in crime. But then for the police to realise they had got the wrong suspect... I was gripped (and in awe of the thoroughness of the police investigation).

I must admit that I thought that the DCI (the SIO) was sometimes auditioning for a TV career.


The Murder Detectives

About the programme

Groundbreaking series with unprecedented access to a police murder investigation, telling the true story, as a drama, from the perspective of the police and the victim and suspect's families

Episode 1 - Who would want to kill Nicholas? Will a glove found at the crime scene provide the answer?

Episode 2 The police have a prime suspect, but he's left the country.

Episode 3 The police have their suspect but must race to uncover evidence as the custody clock ticks

Bbqsareoverrated Sun 06-Dec-15 22:33:53

I thought it was amazing and the individuals involved haven't left my thoughts all week. To me, it is such a powerful demonstration of the consequences one decision can have (I'm thinking mainly of the killer's decision to do what he did, and the impact it had on those around him, but clearly this relates to Nicholas too). It made me think young people should be encouraged to watch it and discuss.

I was similarly moved by the strength and raw emotion of his family and fiancée.

BringMeTea Wed 09-Dec-15 11:42:13

Just finished watching this. Wow. Amazing tv. So well filmed and edited. I watched over last 2 nights. It really did stay with me. His poor family. A lot to be said for having a faith. It really seems to have carried the mother through the loss of 2 sons to murder. RIP Nicholas.

sadwidow28 Wed 09-Dec-15 12:24:29

Bbqsareoverrated Spot on!

I ended up reading the news reports from the time. Luchiano's parents and godmother (and others) were sentenced to 5 yrs in prison for aiding and abetting. But that left 2 daughters (Luchiano's younger sisters) without their parents in their formative years. I suspect they ended up in care.

Nicholas' mother is left to live the rest of her life without either of her sons. No mother should face grief.

I just hope that Nicholas' fiancee managed to rebuild her life and find someone to love her equally as much.

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