Is anyone watching - if you like documentaries this is one of the best I've seen. It was on BBC 2 last night, tonight and tomorrow (all AT 9.00 pm) Should warn you though it's about how the police interview sex offenders, but there are no graphic scenes or anything of that nature.
If anyone saw tonight's episode - was it just me wondered why on earth that Ray Teret bloke kept walking around with paper or what looked like a face flannel in his mouth - weird of what. He is definitely guilty - I was amazed that he hadn't been remanded in custody, as we saw him walking up the court steps for the trial, which of course is now over, but I didn't see anything about it in the media. But then there's been so many of these historic sexual abuse crimes coming to light since Saville.
Felt SO sorry for Cathy who was still visibly shaken and sobbing so many years later after being raped by Teret when she was 12. Something that never goes away..............
Yes, I've been watching it. The paper, flannel, whatever..I think it's his way of hiding his face as much as possible from the cameras? Great work by the police, steaming off the wallpaper to reveal names and phone numbers from all those years ago, like something out of a detective novel - 'cept that this is real life and those were real young girls.
Shall watch the final epi tomorrow. Despite the awful subject matter it's so interesting to watch real police work happening.
Yes it's very interesting. The phone call of that poor girl screaming on the phone was awful.
Yes I watched it last night and thought it was very good. Ray Teret was odd to say the least and listening to how the two detectives were going to interview him was fascinating.
Did anyone think it strange that the younger lad was ok for his name and face to be broadcast considering what he was charged with? I would have thought he'd refuse permission....
I'm going to try and catch the first one before I watch tonight but not sure I'll have enough time. Hats off to the police.
I've been watching, it's fascinating. I find it so interesting to see how they pile the pressure on gradually. I'd have slapped that paper out of Tenet's mouth, he is a repulsive creature.
I think the young man found guilty of raping a child will have lost his right to anonymity.
Oh my, this is an interesting series. Whenever the BBC produce something like this I always feel my licence fee is money well spent.
Yes, yes, to Ray Teret wandering around with that paper in his mouth.
Completely weird. I reckon it was his way of gagging himself, to stop himself from talking. Weirdo though.
Agree totally, hats off to the police.
It's an excellent documentary. Awful to watch at times though.
The rape of the first girl on her way to school, blindfolded with 2 socks tied together? Particularly chilling to see that the lad had bought the pack of socks about 4ish that morning. Hardly an impulse attack, then I'm glad that the sentence reflected this.
The Teret case really brings home the time constraints the police work under, doesn't it? I find the psychology of applying pressure to suspects really interesting.
It's brilliantly made. I read a review about Channel 4's "24 hours in police custody" set a high bar, and The Detectives reaches it. I agree.
The story that has stayed with me today is the woman who was assaulted whilst on the phone to 999. She rung the police, she fought, she was in sight of a bus route... and still couldn't prevent it.
I am a detective and I'm finding it really interest and very true to our working day. My mum thinks it's boring lol!
Fascinating programme. Can't believe the suspects allow themselves to be filmed.
it's hard (but compellng) watching.
what a frustrating system. 10 percent. shit.
I wouldn't think their consent would be required if they are being filmed on police property? But I could be wrong.
Yes, fascinating and harrowing. I'm also very surprised that the suspects were shown - given that production companies seem to have to seek permission to show people usually, and have to pixelate them if it's refused.
God I really want to send a message to Ellie to say, I believe you. I think everyone watching this believes you.
Agree - it's been fascinating and very interesting.
Was amazed at the detective holding back his tears when the DNA matched.
Filmed at Rochdale Police Station, I live and work in Rochdale and know some of these guys. The work that GMP and the Sunrise (CSE) do is fantastic. Sunrise have won awards for their work with the victims of CSE (grooming). They are awesome, so good to see Rochdale getting some recognition for good work.
I'm also wondering about why these blokes agreed to be filmed - surely they must have consented. You can't just film people and put it in the public domain (or rather the media via TV) without their consent. Nicky I would have thought as a detective you would know about this?
Can't believe that Teret pleaded NG making all those women give evidence and how horrendous for those that got NG - and yes who could not have believed Ellie.....so sad for her. But as she said life has to go on.....hope all the others that got NG are ok - hard to believe some just "jump on the bandwagon" but I suppose it's possible. I did Jury service once and it was bedlam in the Jury room - everyone talking over each other and one bloke deciding the defendant was guilty and saying so loudly, as we walked from the court into the Jury room!! I would hate to be tried by a Jury after that experience.
Brilliant TV though........yes I was shocked at that detective in tears about the DNA match - I thought they would have remained calm and professional. Wasn't surprised the bloke who was convicted of rape in the car park (with the woman who was drunk and went for a wee) as he contacted the police himself didn't he - or have I got that wrong. Surely you wouldn't contact the police if you were guilty.
i found it too intrusive re the interviews and the recording of the call on the subway attack.24 hours in police custody was much better imo.
I have no idea about tv cameras recording inside a police station! Even as a detective. I've never been involved in tv production.
People can be recorded without their consent in a public place so I imagine it's the same in police premises.
I thought it was great, very sobering. I hope it gives some comfort to those who have been in similar situations. How very brave they are to speak up in the first place, never mind go to court.
I think if they are found guilty the producers don't need permission.
Excellent series. I found the first case (girl raped in park by young lad) very disturbing - I pictured rapists as being a certain type, and he was young, good looking, in tears on the phone to his Mum saying he didn;t do it. He said "I'm not a monster" - and pleaded guilty.
Why did he do it? Worse was it was planned as he bought the socks to use as blindfold hours before.
I cannot get my head around what is the thought process that led him to do this. Hates women? Cos it's not for sex, is it.
It made me think - he could be ANY ones son. How does a parent, particularly a Mother, deal with a son being a rapist?
I thought the documentary was amazingly well put together - the best I've seen in a while.
That moment when the male detective matched the DNA for that violent rape to a close friend of the family, and the range of emotions that went across his face...joy, sadness, relief...what a job. A job that matters so much.
Oh hang on, I missed that. Was there a personal connection?
I kinda thought it was strange that there was tears as I have never ever seen that at work, even during the worst cases. Elation yes, but not tears.
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