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It is 10 years since Buffy was on the TV!

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Trills Tue 24-Dec-13 10:28:40

BBC article about the progress (or lack of such) in "strong female characters".

FairPhyllis Tue 24-Dec-13 11:10:23

It's a bit sobering to think Buffy ended 10 years ago.

I'd argue that RTD era Doctor Who was extremely strongly influenced by Buffy though. Both in terms of the way the show was plotted with series arcs and the way that Rose (and other companions) were really the main character.

Joss Whedon is right though - there's been a backlash. A show like Buffy might struggle to get made right now.

Trills Tue 24-Dec-13 11:12:38

[ A nice article here]] about how today's "strong female characters" are often very one-dimensional, with "strong" being their only attribute of interest.

EdithWeston Tue 24-Dec-13 11:15:50

Buffy may fight in an eye catching manner.

But she's still a female trapped by patriarchal destiny laid out her by her male watcher. It's no further forward than Charlie's Angels.

Characters who have a choice are far more important role models.

Trills Tue 24-Dec-13 11:16:57

Here sorry

Trills Tue 24-Dec-13 11:19:38

You have a point there Edith, but I just watched a Season 5 episode where the Watchers' Council come to visit and Buffy calls them out on their bullshit and says that if they want her to do anything they have to give her all their information and they have to join her team. They need her more than she needs them.

FairPhyllis Tue 24-Dec-13 13:24:44

Buffy does refuse to be controlled by the Watchers Council though. In the very first episode she's given up slaying completely and only returns to the fight because Willow is in danger. There continues to be tension between her and the council and later on she sacks them. And the WHOLE of the last season is about rejecting the destiny that has been imposed on Slayers by the men who originally created them.

While I don't think Joss Whedon is the feminist he thinks he is - there are plenty of problematic things he has written - all the women in Buffy are at least fully rounded characters with their own inner lives and motivations. I can think of very few shows where this is truly the case.

This is a really good analysis of what is going wrong with writing women on screen.

OneHolyCow Tue 24-Dec-13 13:41:33

I read in an interview that Whedon doesn't like the word feminist because of the way it feels in his mouth. WTactualFF. Put me right off him.
Love Buffy though, she liberated herself from a lot of expectations and roles and chose her own path. Good for her. Yes I do believe she is real. grin

Indith Tue 24-Dec-13 13:46:15

Buffy was amazing.

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