harrow-a very British school?(111 Posts)
Fanny - what makes them unbearable? They're smart, respectful, polite. I don't get the criticism
I've been following this and EY too. I don't find the Harrow boys arrogant. They are self assured and articulate. Most seem quite reasonable to me. DS watched both programmes too and thought the same. He was envious of the shooting lessons but not any of the other gruelling endurance type activities. He was shocked at the wearing of boaters mind, you don't ever see them worn here in Dublin except on Bloomsday.
I loved watching this programme and then watching educating Yorkshire.
A good school might be a good school but nothing an compare to being privately educated.
The boys on this show are confident, intelligent and have good personalities without being arrogant.
Personally I won't be doing the whole boarding school thing but when it came to choosing education for them there was only one choice - private. Moulds boys/girls into confident individuals IF you pick the correct environment for them.
Loved a thing this show!
As parents of a Harrow Shell, we've loved watching this programme as it's given us a real insight into our son's daily life (although in a different house). We chose Harrow as our son is exceptionally bright but also a bit lazy! Private education is new to us as we both went to the local comp and it was his choice to board. He loves it there and feels that it's the only school where he's truly fitted in. He is definitely having his inheritance early as there won't be anything left in the pot after 5 years!
lumbmill could I ask, what made your DS want to board? My DS is a year younger than yours and watched the programme avidly, he would love to go there (no chance sadly!), thought it looked brilliant, but the boarding aspect was not something he liked.
His decision to try boarding came from quite an unusual source. When he was about 9 years old, my parents took him to London for the weekend. They had organised a trip to the Houses of Parliament through their local MP and then met him afterwards for tea. Our local MP (we live in Yorkshire) had attended boarding school and loved it so much that he recommended it to our son. That was it then, our son was so impressed that he wanted to go to boarding school too. The idea of being with his friends 24/7 and never ending activities really appealed to him.
All private schools have scholarships and bursaries to help kids who wouldn't normally have access to this kind of education go there. It sure beats my old school (which now has the dubious honour of having its own police officer permanently onsite now!). My parents could kick themselves that they didn't know about this route to private education when we were at school.
My husband runs a Hedge fund and I am a surgeon. His whole family went to Harrow or Eton . He refused and is way ahead of the pack !.I have never met anyone truly way ahead successful who plays Rugby or is excessively sporty ! We visited Harrow and hoped it was still "quirky " and the breeding ground for original thinkers BUT I am pretty sure Winston Churchill wouldn't get an offer today ! They have become a factory like the London day schools as well as Eton & Wellington !! The kids you meet would probably get straights As wherever they were educated and are complete self-starters who are also sporty.Life is easy at those schools for the teachers ! I have been to dinner parties where men drone on about their school and house...usually Eton or Harrow and that is sadly where their achievement ended.The downside at these schools is that some real live wires come out of them and the rest get to feel average all their lives or worse failures.They can make or break you but they don't do much else ! It depends what you take to be success in life...My experience of education and my DH's is that the real winners start to shine anywhere between 15 and 28 ! Most of my very successful friends are the ones that scraped through UNTIL...I worry about these schools all becoming so league table bound.. are we going to be a Nation of accountants and lawyers ! In the US they have gone full circle and they are looking for the personality traits that make people successful and trying to work out what a person will be good at. I am all for providing a good education to all men but I am worried the UK is selling out and becoming far too restricted in our methods and approach.Of the Etonians and Harrovians in our family ...namely 12 in our generation not one DS is being sent to either...!
I'm finding this a fascinating series, but I do feel sorry for the boys. It does seem a very cloistered world.
@Boschy, I actually know Hugh and whilst sometimes he can be a poncy git. Perhaps one thing the program did not display was that he's actually a very intellectual boy who has much more substance than he appears to, considering he is currently studying in NY and is president of his building. He certainly has not quite followed the rut you are describing. He is possibly one of those few people who you think "You could not write this." He also, for all of his comedy, is one of the most generous and genuine people I know.
As for Harrow, the program accurately depicts how active the boys are, in comparison to my all girls boarding school, they have so much opportunity to completely push themselves to new levels. Whilst there is still some teenage boy laziness that goes on, the majority of Harrow boys that I have met have come away from Harrow having been given some of the most amazing opportunities in an environment that encourages them to go out and do their best. It may have its downsides, however between Harrow and Eton, I would pick Harrow every time. (However I may be slightly biased.)
Apologies in advance for restarting a zombie ...
Question for Buzi: You say that a large number of people in your extended circle are not sending DS to Harrow/Eton. Is that by choice or because they have become too academically selective? (I take it from your post it is not due to financial reasons).
If its by choice I am curious as to what would be considered better options?
I caught up with the series recently on Youtube and enjoyed it. However, on reflection I do think it was all very sanitised - e.g very little mention of those dreaded beings, GIRLS, and the only behavioural issues anyone dealt with were things like being late and not having the right uniform. It's difficult to believe that all the boys are the relative paragons depicted. I wonder if Harrow demanded any right of veto?
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