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coronation street Tina/Gary storyline

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HopAndStop Sat 15-Jun-13 00:14:06

I understand that Tina has the mother half of parental responsibility with Joe/Jake, but surely Gary has normal fathers parental responsibility/rights to contact and so could just apply for shared residency and have the baby living with him and Izzie half the time anyway? Or am I missing something?

braveandcrazy Sun 23-Jun-13 15:54:30

Thanks for the link Meditrina, I understand the surrogate mum registering the birth, but it's odd that her husband can be named as the father on the BC! I expect in reality that is unlikely to happen, and he is more likely to write a letter. It's all very interesting!

abi2790 Sun 23-Jun-13 15:43:47

This storyline has been making me so angry?! How is it that Tina can lawfully take someone else's baby and then stop them from seeing it?! I know it's not real but aarrgghh!!

meditrina Sun 23-Jun-13 15:33:00

The surrogate mother registers the birth.

COTS info page here. If she is unmarried, the intended father can go on BC if he goes with her to register. If she is married, the husband can go on BC, or can repudiate the surrogacy in writing, in which case the intended father can go on.

braveandcrazy Sun 23-Jun-13 15:28:28

So, who registers the birth and which mum is on the birth certificate? Does The 'birth' mum (Tina) do it before handing the baby over, or would the surrogate parents usually wait and do it themselves? And has Tina already registered the birth in Corrie? I don't recall it being mentioned, although with the baby being prem, maybe it hasn't happened yet. In fact, - another question! Can prem or ill babies in hospital be registered there, rather than go to the register office?

LalyRawr Thu 20-Jun-13 10:09:37

Because its a surrogacy it's legally slightly different.

Gary COULD go on the birth certificate. But only if he is present at the registry office and ONLY if he has Tina's permission.

9 times out of ten when this has happened in real life, the 'genetic' parents basically find it too hard to only have the child on the weekends, especially the mother as she will not be the mum.

But Tina could go through the CSA for maintenance payments.

MissMarplesBloomers Thu 20-Jun-13 10:03:32

I just wonder if it goes to court wether they'll ask for the DNA test just to strengthen the case but (it being soapland as you say) it goes against them as Joey-Jake is T&T's?

meditrina Thu 20-Jun-13 08:25:38

They might not need a DNA test as no-one is disputing the origin of the gametes.

But this being a soap, perhaps there'll be one anyhow and they'll discover a mix up at the clinic and that the baby is genetically unrelated to any of them!

MissMarplesBloomers Thu 20-Jun-13 00:10:05

I think the legal process will deem the need for a DNA test & that's when Jake/Joe is found to be T&T's biologically too.

That saidhasn't someone seen some spoilers of Izzy holding t'baby & taking him home?

<possibly I dreamt that> grin

Viking1 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:53:08

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Caitycat Mon 17-Jun-13 08:55:11

The turkey baster method.was used by Sean and Violet years ago to make Dylan. Tina et al went through a proper surrogacy and I remember it being mentioned at the time in the counselling that the person who gives birth is legally the mother. Remember Tina saying there was no need to worry about her not handing it over!

PuppyMonkey Mon 17-Jun-13 08:44:48

No it wasn't turkey baster method. She went to hospital. It's Izzy's egg and Gary's sperm. Until we find out it isn't and it's actually Tommy's and Tina's wink

Viking1 Mon 17-Jun-13 08:38:56

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UhOhChongo Sun 16-Jun-13 20:49:23

I was wondering about this, was it Tina's egg and Gary's sperm? If it's Izzy's egg and Gary's sperm surely they are the legitimate parents? What biological claim does Tina have?

PS. I like Dev and his acting style blush

Oxen Sat 15-Jun-13 23:44:20

Every time I hear Baby Jake, something in my mind goes 'Gogee Gee Aaah'

Magic Fun and all that!

Terrible situation with Tina keeping the baby, I don't know enough about the rules and regs of surrogacy to comment on legalities.

Dev and his columbo jacket does my head in. But his kids are awful (sorry but its true)

My two favourite characters are Mary and Roy - but where's Norris these day?

They are awful, especially Owen. I'm just watching last night's episodes now, Karl is stalking Dev.

Sparklingbrook Sat 15-Jun-13 23:26:42

Oh right Who, I guess he will be found out.

The Gary/Izzy family aren't very likeable are they?

It was Izzy's egg. I like Tina and Tommy but I think this is a terrible, terrible thing to do to Gary and Izzy (who I can't stand).

As for Dev, he is terrible, but Karl deserves to get his come-uppance. Stella has no idea it was him.

Viking1 Sat 15-Jun-13 23:21:01

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MikeLitoris Sat 15-Jun-13 16:51:09

This story line is giving me The Rage. I have been avoiding corrie because of it. Yes tina carried the baby but it is gary and izzys baby. How on earth would she explain to baby jake about his real parents when he grows up.

I did catch a bit last night and got my hopes uphen I saw carl with that trophy in his hand.

Dev is a terrible actor.

Sparklingbrook Sat 15-Jun-13 16:45:18

Unconnected but having watched a bit of the Omnibus this morning-

Dev is still the worst actor ever.
Tracey luv needs to be written out pronto. Just dreadful.

Does Cindy Beale know that him off Taggart killed Dev's 'lovely Sooooonneeeeeta'?

FeckOffCup Sat 15-Jun-13 16:13:18

We haven't seen baby Ruby for ages, who watches her and Hope while Tyrone's fixing cars and Fiz's stitching knickers? See also Amy McDonald and Simon Barlow, I'm setting up as a childminder and moving to Weatherfield, I'll be quids in.

meditrina Sat 15-Jun-13 09:49:13

They've said that Gary/Izzy are taking legal advice, so perhaps that will include seeking PR for him (we'll have to wait and see), but amount of contact isn't a given, and there's very little RL precedent for such cases (Surrogacy UK website says there have been about 900 babies born via surrogates in UK, and in only 2 cases has the baby not been handed over as intended).

Sparklingbrook Sat 15-Jun-13 09:46:54

I don't watch Corrie but have seen some of this. Is the baby going to turn out to be Tina and Chris Fountain's?

HopAndStop Sat 15-Jun-13 09:45:06

But if the dad gets a DNA test done through court they put him on the birth certificate and they'll then have equal 'rights'.

I think Tyrone went the marriage way to avoid Kristy kidnapping her while the court process was done.

(I need to stop taking this so seriously haha wink)

Upsy1981 Sat 15-Jun-13 06:48:42

As I understand it, if the mother and father aren't married, the father has no parental rights until he is named on the birth certificate. That was Tyrone's problem - Kirsty didn't put him on the birth cert, hence Tyrone tricking Kirsty into getting married.

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