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Dr Who has really gone off, hasnt it?

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Snog Sat 27-Apr-13 19:23:13

Dr Who used to be`s gone really downhill now hasn't it?

Davros Sun 28-Apr-13 18:49:32

Maybe they have got confused about how appealing to children to make it since the Sarah Jane Adventures had to end? The substitute Aliens vs Monsters was not a patch on SJA. Although I suppose DW is supposed to be for kids somewhat?

Bluebell99 Sun 28-Apr-13 18:54:22

The humour has gone. In the previous series there were really funny moments with Donna, and Amy and Rory and Rose. This series hasn't been funny at all.

ladymalfoy Sun 28-Apr-13 20:05:52

As a megafan I loved the rooms in the Tardis. Terence Dicks hinted at all those rooms in the novels bases on the TV stories. The Doctor finally went mental trying to look after his companion. Hints about the history of Gallifrey and although there were a couple of ripoffs from Harry Potter I really enjoyed it. Bullying ,exploitation,lies,promises almost broken. The 50th may not be a fan fest if rumours are to be believed but they have included nods to the classic series so far. And I finally believe Matt Smith's Doctor would really fuck over the bad guys.

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sun 28-Apr-13 21:13:33

I am fairly sure I can remember an infinate tardis rooms plot line from Tom Baker days but its a very vague memory!

CounselorTroi Sun 28-Apr-13 21:52:33

I loved Donna. Bring back Donna. And DT.

Davros Mon 29-Apr-13 07:16:27

Even among the great episodes there have always been pot boilers. E.G. What was that one set on a space ship with Cindy off Eastenders and lots of running around? I used to think Midnight was a bit of a pot boiler but its much better than this week's. also, I have stopped paying attention which doesn't help with "getting it".

RustyBear Mon 29-Apr-13 07:37:53

You may be thinking of Logopolis, Shipwrecked - Tegan's first episode. The Doctor had parked the TARDIS around a real Police Box in order to measure it so he could fix the Chameleon circuit, and Tegan got into it by mistake and got lost wandering round endless corridors, then ended up being 'hijacked' when the TARDIS dematerialised.

Or it could have been Invasion of Time, which featured a chase with the Sontarans through the interior of the TARDIS, which at that time included a large number (but not a great variety) of industrial staircases, and a swimming pool. This was largely due to a budget more appropriate to a chimpanzee's tea party, and the BBC strike which meant they had to hastily arrange location filming at any place they could find.

Try watching that one, and you might find this season suddenly more appealing...

Quenelle Mon 29-Apr-13 10:09:19

I think the Clara Oswald character could be so brilliant but the writing is letting them down.

I thought she was going to be this super intelligent companion who was able to challenge the Doctor on a few things and be a bit more independent in thought, rather than just being 'feisty' hmm when cornered by monsters. Sadly not.

Her character is very one-dimensional right now and this 'who are you?' thing is not gripping me, they need to tantalise with some clues to maintain my interest, or make the clues less subtle if I'm just missing them!

Matt Smith is an excellent Doctor. What a shame he's being let down by the stories. He is a young Johnny Ball though. No question.

Quenelle Mon 29-Apr-13 10:21:22

DH and I both loved the episodes Steven Moffat used to write in the RTD days. Blink, the Madame Pompadour one, the ones in the library are some of my all-time favourites.

He most definitely wrote for children then: choosing enemies that played on timeless childhood fears, the scary thing under the bed, immobile things coming to life when you're not looking at them, the dark! <shudder> And there have been hints of this since he took over, the crack in a bedroom wall...?

This is what classic Doctor Who should be: proper scary to make a ten year old watch from behind the sofa.

Perhaps he concentrates too much on the story arc now he's in charge of the whole series, and the individual stories are suffering as a result.

BornInACrossFireHurricane Mon 29-Apr-13 10:50:24

I want DT and rose back


sensesworkingovertime Mon 29-Apr-13 16:56:13

At the risk of sounded like a boring old fart, the thing that annoys me the most is the top gear constant pace. Do they think we will get bored if things slow down a little? And can't be just have normal conversations instead of that constant wise-cracking humour, it's good in small doses, not ALL the time.

marjproops Mon 29-Apr-13 17:11:45

We love Matt Smith in the Proops household!

stories getting better as series goes on methinks.

I like the olde stylee touch it seems to have atm, but maybe thats the prob.

these days every single prog has to have the best fx and explosions and maybe its trying to harness it in a tad?

wintera Mon 29-Apr-13 17:20:35

Last time I was on a Doctor Who thread on Mumsnet people were saying they'd had enough of RTD and couldn't wait for S M to take over. Now people seem to want him back again!

bulletproofgerbil Mon 29-Apr-13 18:40:54

I thought Steven Moffat's writing was brilliant Quenelle. I agree that a lot of his stories centred on childhood fears. I bet there is a whole generation of kids growing up scared of statues. I remember being scared of mannequins in shops as a kid from watching Dr Who. His plots were so clever and deep and could be enjoyed by adults. That is the essence of Dr Who IMO - relevant and enjoyable for the whole family. Right now, I'm not sure how many people are finding it all that great.

LittleAbruzzenBear Mon 29-Apr-13 19:04:39

I agree that Matt Smith is great, it's the stories letting him down. Still, DS1 is enjoying it!

Rolf Tue 30-Apr-13 12:43:11

I liked the most recent episode. Loved seeing more of the Tardis, loved the hint of retro rickety sets, loved how low-tech the monster/Clara looked until the end of the episode. I'm enjoying the mystery about Clara Oswald, I like Matt Smith apart from when he does that twirling move (I find it a bit "I'm Wacky, Me"). I like seeing how he stakes his loyalties- he's more of a military thinker than DT who towards the end got a bit mad wizardy.

Loved the haunted house story, especially as it started off being a scenario to have nightmares about and ended up with a science fiction rationale to it.

I didn't like the Master storylines much - found it all rushed, showy offy, came across as though it was thought up at a shouty dinner party.

Badgerwife Tue 30-Apr-13 21:46:18

See I like Matt Smith's Doctor (not as much as I liked DT's but that's coz I could eat DT for breakfast) and Clara but I agree with everyone who says that they are let down by increasingly poor writing and the stories are nowhere near as gripping as they used to be. It seems like they are trying to cram in an entire film-sized plot into a 45 mins show every single week so the pace is insane, they all have to talk really fast to get all the content and explanation about what the hell is going on and run around like ants, and then fob you off with a rushed often inexplicable ending because again they don't have time to show you any of it.

Snog Tue 30-Apr-13 21:46:45

Quenelle Madame Pompadour ways makes me cry...brilliant!
Loved Donna too.

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 30-Apr-13 22:53:38

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Davros Wed 01-May-13 09:53:59

Amy became acceptable because of Rory IMO. I loved Rory and what turned out to be their devotion to eachother.

Snapespeare Wed 01-May-13 11:32:04

I miss Rory too
I'm fed up with feisty girls. (only calling them girls because they refer to themselves as 'girls' and not women.) Clara sounds exactly like RIver sometimes, which led me to think she was River-rebooted from the library computer at first, but now I think other stuff.
I also miss RIver. I like that there's a non-conventional relationship here, but I'd like her to turn up and be a bit smug and solve everything. I don't really like how Moffat writes women - I find it a tad generic.

I think Matt Smith is utterly amazing as the Doctor and don't want him to leave. which is why I have a tattoo of him as the doctor on my calf he's a very fine actor indeed.

CalamityKate Wed 01-May-13 19:44:41

Hating this series.

Before, I never missed an episode but I've not been that bothered lately.

Crap, dull, humourless stories and can't stand Clara.

Gutted sad

StephaniePowers Wed 01-May-13 19:47:07

God yes it is quite tragic, that Clara person has NOTHING to say and if you watch closely, very little to do.
All she does is chirps out little retorts, sometimes 3 words if she's lucky. hmm
The stories have been meh and there is no hook (that I can see).

StephaniePowers Wed 01-May-13 19:49:56

'Feisty' is a word used to describe her a lot in Doctor Who.
She doesn't fit any description of feisty that I can think of.
She does fuck all except nyip nyip nyip.
I know traditionally the character is there to provide something for male viewers to look at - and for no other reason - but Rose, thingy the comedian, and even I grudgingly admit, Amy Pond (spit) had more to them than nyip nyip nyip.

CalamityKate Wed 01-May-13 19:54:58

"Chirps out little retorts"
"Nyip Nyip Nyip"


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