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Anyone else ridiculously excited about 'World Without End' starting on Saturday?

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Vagaceratops Thu 10-Jan-13 19:42:07

I cannot wait!

Oblomov Tue 05-Feb-13 18:13:49

Can't make my mind up about this. Godwyn does make my skin crawl.

NadiaWadia Sat 26-Jan-13 14:45:01

Guess I can still enjoy it without having seen POTE then. Thanks.

guineapiglet Sat 26-Jan-13 12:01:40

Alot of the characters in WWE are 'related' to characters in POTE - so there is a slight connection there, and some references made back to them = Bluey is right, its not really historically accurate, it is a bonk buster really, but hey, it makes the ironing easier and is watchable as wallpaper if you know what I mean - it could have been so much better and gripping, but there you go.

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 26-Jan-13 07:59:04

No, it's set 150 years later.

NadiaWadia Sat 26-Jan-13 01:36:13

Oh right, thanks for the info, but do some of the same characters appear in both?

BlueyDragon Sat 26-Jan-13 01:34:10

Pillars of the Earth comes before WWE. IMO, Pillars is a really good book and has made me slightly obsessive about flying butresses and the TV series was terrible, leaving out loads of detail on the background. WWE was a real disappointment to me as a book, more of a historical bonk buster than researched novel, but somehow the TV series is therefore more watchable.

NadiaWadia Sat 26-Jan-13 01:26:42

I have just started watching this (only seen 1st episode, 2nd waiting on my Sky box) and it seems quite good.

But I didn't see Pillars of the Earth, so can anyone tell me if this is a continuation, or are the characters, time period, etc, all new?

Also, what are the books like? Are they well thought of or just a kind of 'medieval blockbuster'?

wibblyjelly Thu 24-Jan-13 22:47:05

I was a bit disappointed with it. I just kept thinking that you could tell the majority of the actors were acting, if that makes sense? Cynthia Nixon is good though!

HelpOneAnother Tue 22-Jan-13 14:50:03

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guineapiglet Mon 21-Jan-13 11:25:22

Hi - it was called the Devil's Crown and was made in about 1978 I think, will go and google it for more info, it also had John Duttine in it - it must have made quite an impression on me as I can remember a lot of it ( and I am really old!!!)

HelpOneAnother Mon 21-Jan-13 10:22:09

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guineapiglet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:13:14

PS It is filmed in Hungary I noticed from the credits at the end. Looks lovely there doesn't it?

guineapiglet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:12:35

You are right, it is always lovely and sunny there and everyone looks so bright and cheerful! I have yet to see GOT, but really want to - this WWE is fine for doing your ironing in front of - its not very demanding, but quite watchable, some bits have been changed, but basically about power and who's wealthy and who isnt..... sound familiar?!

ThreeBeeOneGee Sun 20-Jan-13 20:42:28

I can't help comparing it with the adaptation of Game of Thrones and WWE comes off worse. Why is it always sunny? Why is everything so clean?

fifitrixibell Wed 16-Jan-13 22:49:52

I've just watched this on catch up, having recently read the book. I'm so irritated by the many, many changes from the book. I'm not sure if I can watch the rest of it. But I might just have to.

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Mon 14-Jan-13 22:05:49

I think we could really do with a charter restricting how much people can demand for wages especially the banking fat cats and definitely how much traders can demand for goods! confused

shotofexpresso Mon 14-Jan-13 22:00:27

I watched this, I'm hoping it gets better It doesn't seem as grabbing as POTE.

the last was 10 minutes was hilarious though, for all the wrong reasons (sicko)

guineapiglet Mon 14-Jan-13 11:20:42

Interesting, I might have to read that myself, - I quite like her books. It is a really compulsive time historically, and is given absolutely no time at all in national curriculum, you would think primary school kids would love learning about the Black Death and the horrible punishments and tortures they had then.

Years ago the beeb did a series on Henry II ( drama with Jane Lapotaire and Brian Cox) - I have never forgotten it after all this time, it was so watchable and realistic.

In WWE, I remember in the book the position of the guilds was portrayed very well, about the stranglehold they had, and about the role of apprenticeships, and also Caris herself is quite a feminist icon for those days, keep watching and you will see. Nice to have a chat about Medieval times, when I read todays papers not much has changed, other than we dont do public hangings anymore!smile

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Mon 14-Jan-13 11:13:14

I know! I sometimes wonder I we actually are a nation of idiots! confused
I'm currently reading Jean Plaidy's The Vow On The Heron. Edward III seems to be quite a good king. He seems to have been fairly reasonable most of the time, and after the Black Death abated he made charters meaning that workers couldn't demand extortionate pay, and that every man under 60 had to do his share of farming etc, and traders couldn't demand extortionate prices, in order to help the country get back on its feet. The population was decimated!

guineapiglet Mon 14-Jan-13 10:52:14


I know, I think if you are looking for historical accuracy, don't watch this, it got me googling Edward IIIrd tho' to actually look at his reign and what he did, think most of it is just piffle, if you know what I mean. I dont know why Follett didnt make it more accurate, there is a lot of detail in the writing, but most of it is just to sell books......I do wish the producers would accept that not everything has to be dumbed down, the Beeb used to to wonderful historical series years ago, why is it so impossible to have such dramas now. I think Horrible Histories has been utterly brilliant in the way it has captured children's imaginations - and look at how the Tudors were portrayed on TV in the latest series ( although Jonathan Rhys Meyers was worth watching!) - this from a nation that can produce amazing writers like Hilary Mantel and the stunning Wolf Hall series..... shame this cant be put on screen more accurately.

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Sun 13-Jan-13 22:46:14

Oh, and Edward III was only 14 when he was crowned! He looks about 25 on the telly!

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Sun 13-Jan-13 22:37:24

I've just watched the start. In the first five minutes I was annoyed! You can't ride a galloping horse and reload and repeatedly fire a cross bow! You need to put both feet into the bow and pull the string with both hands! hmm

guineapiglet Sun 13-Jan-13 19:19:06

Have just watched most of the episode recorded last night, thought it was OK, costumes and cruelty were very good and some famous faces, Miranda Richardson, Ben Chaplin etc, so was pleasantly surprised that it wasnt as bad as I feared, it is certainly good viewing for a cold afternoon with the ironing pile! Do love how they recreate medieval times, but everyone is so CLEAN - one bath a year????

ColdWinterMorning Fri 11-Jan-13 19:49:27

I enjoyed Pillars of the Earth TV series, then read the book. Book was good, but I enjoyed the series alot more (nothing to do with Rufus Sewell and Eddie Redmayne, oh no). I will be watching tonight.

Gigondas Fri 11-Jan-13 19:49:18

Mixed feelings As pillars of earth was pants

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