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Josh or Toby

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TinyPawz Mon 23-May-11 20:55:52

Rewatching The West Wing dvds for what must be the 20th time and can't decide who would be best husband material.

Which would you chose?

<very very bored>

tribpot Mon 23-May-11 20:59:52

Husband material? Both hopeless I would say. Ditto Leo (and I adore Leo).

Will might be reasonable husband material?

TinyPawz Mon 23-May-11 21:20:38

Never really took a shine to Will. Much prefered Sam.

But if you had to choose Josh or Toby?

SarkyLady Mon 23-May-11 21:22:00

But not for marriage smile

beachholiday Mon 23-May-11 21:48:48

Agree most of them would drive you demented if you were married to them.

But I am so hopelessly biased towards Josh that I would supress all my reservations given half a chance. One of my most-loved TV characters ever.

SarkyLady Mon 23-May-11 22:02:08

I'll fight you for him beach.
Real chick fighting with hair pulling and all smile

schroeder Tue 24-May-11 22:06:24


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schroeder Tue 24-May-11 22:07:12

Toby and josh on the side?

schroeder Tue 24-May-11 22:08:12

Josh, but with Toby as best mate? grin

I think hmm

handsomeharry Tue 24-May-11 22:31:03

I think Toby is really sexy. I think it's all that angst that attracts me. blush

He plays a big part in one of my favourite episodes too where he arranges a funeral for a Korean veteran. I cry buckets every time.

I think Josh is a bit too manic. Would he stand still for long enough to get him into bed?

Sorry - I have given this a lot of thought.

beachholiday Tue 24-May-11 22:58:19

No two-timing Toby and Josh. You can't pit them against each other. I loved the years of verbal sparring but I hated it when they fought. It was so sad how badly they had miscommunicated.

I did find it interesting when Toby pointed out that CJ had hadnt really needed a longterm relationship when she had he and Josh and Sam. Not a bad position to be in...

notyummy Tue 24-May-11 23:00:08


Love the ruffled hair, the rolled up sleeves, the forearms....

(Poor DH has had to put up with me banging on about him for YEARS. He is always like hmm.)

handsomeharry Tue 24-May-11 23:01:13

Lucky CJ.

LadyClariceCannockMonty Wed 25-May-11 14:56:58

Don't go in for marriage, but if we're just talking 'who would you do?' then Toby all the way. Don't like Josh's look, or the receding hairline. Toby is obscurely sexy.

EustaciaVye Wed 25-May-11 16:37:35

Sam, or CJ (and I'm not that way inclined).
but NOT Josh OR Toby.

IslaValargeone Wed 25-May-11 16:38:55

Toby, he's so tortured I just love him.
Josh might be useful as a plaything.

handsomeharry Wed 25-May-11 21:16:58

Yes the tortured thing does it for me too.

beachholiday Wed 25-May-11 21:21:57

Did you know Richard Schiff had a backstory in his head for why Toby was so tortured? In his head, Toby was widowed. So he left his own wedding ring on and it was only noticed when they had filmed quite a bit. Hence, they invented an ex-wife for Toby.

I love that Schiff was so invested in his character from the start. It certainly paid off in his acting.

handsomeharry Wed 25-May-11 21:40:32

Do you think Toby had a relationship/fling with the poet laureate? I like to think he did.

I watch and re-watch the box sets and probably do believe it's actually real. blush grin

PorkChopSter Wed 25-May-11 21:47:23



beachholiday Wed 25-May-11 22:00:32

I think something developed between them ongoing from that episode, harry. I loved Josh and Toby's clueless conversation about how to attract women, and Toby's genuine sadness that he cold not claim Josh's "boyish charm." They aged Josh out of his boyish charm very convincingly during the end days of the Santos campaign. (I'd still have you though Josh. No question..)

handsomeharry Wed 25-May-11 22:09:48

Also, do you think as a back story CJ ever had a fling with any of them?

My theory is - Toby definitely, Josh perhaps and Sam definitely not.

beachholiday Wed 25-May-11 22:21:00

I definately dont think CJ had a fling with any of them. I really liked the relationship between her and Toby, as a platonic relationship. I know she knew him way before the campaign, but he would presumably have been married then and his marriage seemed to be breaking down around the time of inauguration, from that flashback they showed. The timelines dont really work and I never got the feeling they had been involved. Obviosly loved each other very much though.

The only part where I did think Toby might be yearning for something with CJ was near the end - something about the way he was saying goodbye to her when she went to see him at the end - but his overwhelming sadness might just have been that it was all really over. Also his life was in ruins at that point. I think he was grieving the loss of everything.

And I think CJ might have found Josh very annoying if they were in a relationship together! Sam definately not grin

OhmeoOhmyo Thu 26-May-11 07:02:28

Agree with beachholiday about CJ and Toby. Lots of affection and respect but nothing more. Liked the line where she says "You want to do me right now, don't you?" and he deadpans "When don't I?"

Toby or Josh? Toby. I don't even like men with beards.

I noticed too that Toby still wears a wedding ring, and Leo.

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