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So heartbroken because teens ignore me

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crispypancakes00 · 27/04/2019 22:48

This has been going on for a while now, but today it's come to a head and I feel completely broken.

Two DD, 13 and 16. Both stay in their rooms all day and come out only for meals. I know this is "normal" teen behaviour, but this is a complete rejection. Honestly, if dh and me were to suddenly die they wouldn't know until the next meal. They'll go to their rooms after school and stay there only to come out to eat. No conversation of any sort EVER, but short annoyed answers if you ask them anything. But if THEY want to discuss or say something you have to drop everything and make conversation (and tbh I'm so starved of it that I respond at once), and then they'll talk and laugh at length like normal people. DD1 used to expect to be fetched when it was mealtimes (the placement of the rooms means that you can't shout up the stairs, you have to go upstairs and tap and let her know like a servant) but I stopped doing that. Even on Mothers Day that's what they did. One gave a card in the morning, and shut herself up for the rest of the day, and one gave one in the evening after not saying a word all day (later found out DH had asked to make card).

Today we had to go out somewhere and I got late meeting DD1 after it. She sent me whatsapp messages which I hadn't seen but she was enraged that it showed me as online (I was using the photo function on the app to take pics as they take up less memory than camera pics at a presentation I was at, I didn't know she had messaged me). Then she proceeded to blank me completely at this event we were at, looking away as if she was repulsed and standing as far away as possible. DD2 did the same because it was like getting validation to act like that in public too. On the way back I brought it up and DD1 said that it was because she felt I did it deliberately, and she doesn't have any faith that I wouldn't do something like that. Why would anyone think that about their own mother? I feel like such a failure, this is such a basic thing, if you can't trust your own family what even do we have. Why do they act like this. Once they see I'm really broken down they relent a little for all of five minutes, and then are back to this. It's not they act angry all the time, just uninterested and like tenants in the house who go about their own lives but need all the services.

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BeardedMum · 27/04/2019 22:51

Oh yes! I haven’t seen my teens since Friday.

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OhMyDarling · 27/04/2019 22:53

My DD can be the same. It’s just me and her so some weekends I go without any conversation with anyone at all. She’s a lovely girl but when it’s that time of the month, she is a nightmare.
It’s very isolating, I can feel so so lonely.

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theconstantinoplegardener · 27/04/2019 22:55

Mine are younger so we're not at this stage, but I've been told by friends with teens about this stage, that they stay in their rooms and don't talk to you for five years...and then they get to about 17 and emerge like a butterfly from a chrysalis, all lovely and delightful and you can have a relationship with them again. Hang in there and your eldest DD should get to that stage soon!

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Ticklingcheese · 27/04/2019 23:07

Typical teen behavior 😀. There is a nice thread 'Is parenting a teen adversely affecting your mh?' In the teenage section, if you need it.

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BarbarianMum · 02/05/2019 08:05

Well each to their own but I wouldn't put up with being treated like this by my kids (1 teen, 1 about to be). A certain amount of being in their rooms I can cope with but they are also expected to interact with the rest of the family, converse at the table - and if I'm too embarrassing to be acknowledged in public then they need to stop expecting me to be their chauffeur and hop on a bus.

This "oh they're teens so of course they'lltreat you like dirt, isn't it amusing" is a very British attitude. I dont know another country where it's considered ok for teenagers to behave like that.

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BrokenWing · 02/05/2019 09:42

when in the house ds(15) chooses to spend most of his free time in his room too as he's normally on PS4 or facetime with friends which is fair enough. Why are you taking it so personally?

Insist they are engaged in family life, ds comes out when asked to help make dinner, empty dishwasher, strip/make his bed, occasional baking etc and we do it together and chat then, I mostly ask open questions and listen. These are habits as the adult in the house you need to build, dont expect them to magically get involved without guidance. I don't expect interest in my work or me, he's a teenager so not interested in adults lives, I know I wasnt interested in my mums day when I was that age!

Occasionally he'll join us if we find a series he enjoys on TV (we have just discovered Line of Duty and watching from series 1 a couple of episodes a week, after which we have quick chat about and then he heads back to room to play with friends again). We make time to go out for something to eat together every couple of weeks or so, if I'm going for a supermarket mid week shop (15 mins in store) sometimes I ask him to come with me to carry my bags Grin

At weekends I find out what his plans are and if he hasn't any we make some to make sure he's not in his room all day.

When you were late for meeting dd did you apologise and give a valid reason (work meeting ran late, stuck in traffic due to an accident on road etc), or were you just late as you made no effort to get there on time? If I was late, and did give a valid reason, I would have words with ds if he acted like that and made sure he knew it was unavoidable and his behavior unacceptable given the circumstances and your apology.

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PrincessTiggerlily · 02/05/2019 09:54

I would ask for a meeting to discuss your annoyance at their rude behaviour with me and DH as you are going to limit internet access in your home as it seems to be having a negative effect on their wellbeing. So what time would they prefer internet free so that they can join you for meals/ do their chores/ get some exercise/ interact with family.
If it's half an hour at teatime and half an hour before bed, and that they are reasonably pleasant it's a start. But then I'm a bolshy moo and DCs would know I meant it (DCs have left Home now).

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KingscoteStaff · 02/05/2019 13:14

And this is why I’m happy that DC have tiny bedrooms so all studying and telly are done downstairs. It’s much easier to insist that they lay the table when it’s their books/laptop/card game that needs to be cleared first!

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HoppingPavlova · 03/05/2019 13:58

We never allowed electronics in their rooms. Ever, no matter what age. That included phones. Even homework on the computer had to be done out in general living areas (obviously we were considerate in the living areas at these times). Funnily, they never spent much time in their roomsGrin.

They did use their rooms for homework not requiring the computer, if they wanted to read etc but given they couldn’t interact with friends in their rooms they didn’t spend much time there.

Then once they reached 18yo and could do what they wanted in this regard they were either never in the habit of ‘living’ in their rooms or that phase had passed over so they kept on as they always had with us in the general living areas.

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mcmen71 · 03/05/2019 20:33

crispypancakes00 an example of today with dd1 she dropped her schoolbag in car no hello or anything just you are like 100 hours late which I was at school at 3.20 and she gets out at 3.15 slammed car door text at 3.45 with bf and havent heard from her since prob hear about 10pm begging to stay out later than 11pm and when she is at home does homework in kitchen for about an hour rest of eve is in bedroom listening to music or on phone. Its a part of growing up getting independent.

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Hanab · 03/05/2019 20:39

If you want their attention switch off the wifi .. seriously it works! Or take away the electronics .. I have done and I still do this!

Don’t cater to all their needs.. they can cook a meal themselves do other chores..

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HoppingPavlova · 04/05/2019 01:28

Don’t cater to all their needs.. they can cook a meal themselves do other chores..

Yes, this is another good strategy we use/used. Ours had to assist with dinner prep and cooking 2 nights a week. If you want to eat, you are going to help and it’s also trying to assist them with life skills/cooking in the hope they eventually move out one day Grin. It’s pretty hard for them to ignore you when you are stuck in the kitchen together! They didn’t have set days, it was all dependant on how much homework each had that night and who had an assignment due etc. The only exception was in exam periods, they got a free pass.

My teenager does this and so does young adult once they were given the choice to do it all themselves 2 nights a week or we do it together like when they were a teen at school. They decided to continue on with the routine they had as teens. The reality is they can’t expect to eat if they don’t pitch in especially as we don’t charge board. It’s a really good chance to have a catch up where we have each other’s full attention.

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MotherOfMinions · 04/05/2019 15:14

Yes am experiencing this with DS 16 and 15. It makes me very depressed from time to time. I have no idea what to do except wait until they’re older and nicer

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Zippie123 · 05/05/2019 17:15

I have got a 15 year old daughter and she has turned into some devil with her mouth I don't feel like I no her anymore and I definitely don't like her I just keep praying it will stop .

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Michelle5234 · 06/05/2019 10:02

There’s loads of good practical advice on the thread. I just want to validate what you’re feeling... It hurts like hell that these vibrant gorgeous little people who shared everything with you and loved you SO much have changed SO much. They’ve turned into rude, silent, slovenly bigger people who treat you with disdain and find you spectacularly irritating, even though they actually need you to be the adult and offer nuanced timely advice in a carefully crafted manner which they’ll actually consider. It’s hard and it hurts like hell. Can’t wait till mine reach 21, then I can start my new life and have occasional pleasant conversations with them. Sincerely, I wish you luck and fortitude. I know they idea of these threads is to offer advice so mine is for you the person, not you the mother: trawl YouTube for various hobbies and find something that floats your boat and get into that (I’m having a crack at oil painting) at least it takes your mind off it and makes you feel good about yourself. :-)

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crispypancakes00 · 22/06/2019 22:52

Thank you for your thoughts. It has taken me a (long!) while to process this information but I get where you are all coming from. Things are better now, but that's usually the case as these things are cyclical.

HoppingPavlova I like your system.

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Sn0wball · 24/06/2019 23:26

Hi, well I got one DD through teenage with rules and respect, but with 7 year age gap the second DD is proving to be a challenge that I'm not sure our family will recover from.

Oh that all sounds rather dramatic I know, but her manipulation of her rather weak (and aspie) father means I'm the one left out in the cold. I'm broken, lonely and overwhelmingly frustrated.

Id always had a good relationship and we had rules. I limited screen time, no tech at dinner time and the like. Then I was made redundant. As main wage earner I took a contract which meant a long commute. During that year all my rules were trashed. Husband had his routines and keeping the rules was to much trouble. Problems really started when DD was bought a new phone by DH with large data allowance... Pop went control of screen time.

She then almost out of defiance refused to take dirty cups etc or her room, this I objected to but DH didn't back me up. She seized this power and soon being want changed clothes and wet towels just left on floor. I couldn't keep fighting without adult backup. DH in mean time enjoyed being the go to person.

Of course there were rows. At Christmas time she told me she had no respect for me. DH told me to listen to what she was saying and that I deserved the treatment. All this was enough to send me to the Dr's feeling like I was losing the plot.

She isn't civil with me, blame me for moving items. I feel awkward in my own home.

DH doesn't have a radar for empathy and can only focus on the rows and won't back me.

I think this will kill what threads of the marriage that are left. At the moment I have decided silence is my best defence. There is no point me attempting to parent without support. It is just so deeply sad to be at such a bad place.

Last week I suggested to her that if an evening maybe it would be nice if she made the evening cup if tea, well that erupted into a complete melt down which as always came back to me being unreasonable.

It worries me how she will grow these next couple of years before uni. I have to hold firm that she knows right from wrong and that the good is in there somewhere, but I'm not being an open purse when treated with such disregard. Just hoping I have the strength to keep it going 😥

Writing this having started a new job and putting this week to spend two night away from home for a breather... Sorry state of affairs.

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AnthonyCrowley · 24/06/2019 23:28

Dd is 18yo and recently seems to have improved on this front. We're spending time together. Maybe light at the end of the tunnel?

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PregnantOnPurpose · 24/06/2019 23:35

I was like this, worse even. I would scream at my mum for petty things, throw hurtful words and would generally never leave my room. I'd even take my dinner to my room.

I grew out of that around 17, and became very close to my mum, I'm 23 now and often go for lunches, shopping and just pop to my mums house for a chat. If I dont pop to her house then I almost always message or call her every day to check in.

Give it time OP, teenagers are savage, but once they grow up you'll look back and laugh together xx

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Pipandmum · 24/06/2019 23:39

I have a 14 year old and 15. The 14 year old comes home, quick chat then to her room for about an hour and a half. Then dinner then she tells me about her day. Then we watch a show (doing Call the Midwife now) til she goes to bed. She tends to get up early to do homework rather than at the end if the day. Weekends I don’t see her til noon but then she hangs out with me.
My son has a girlfriend so is more into her than us but he always is up for a chat plus I ferry him around to sports stuff we chat then. He occasionally asks to watch a movie together or go out for a meal. He’s not into computers and only occasionally does Xbox and that’s usually with mates.
So maybe they’re atypical but I feel quite connected and though my son can definitely push the boundaries we can always talk to each other. I’m very non judgmental occasionally he says things I wish I didn’t know about! But I have to say overall the teen experience has been fine.

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SummerSeasoning · 24/06/2019 23:44

Hang on in there op.

And do let them know you are a decent person whon doesn't appreciate being assumed to be untrustworthy. I do stand my own ground. Then let it drop.

It's a mental effort to be consistent and not get riled by it all.

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WhatsitallaboutAlfie1 · 26/06/2019 11:09

Snowball - I am so very glad you posted, as I can recognise much of this in my own house. DH blames me for the conflict with dd, but that is because I am prepared to 'call out' bad behaviour while he is prepared to let it all ride (because it's so much easier and he is lazy). Our marriage too has suffered to the point that I am thinking of taking a holiday alone abroad next year and leaving him to it. Our dd has driven a coach and horses through (reasonable) rules partly because he allows this to happen. He will throw money at any problem, yet always pleads poverty when I want something. We went to a parenting coach (cost £200) and she talked about effectively love bombing our dd. We tried it for a while. It was like love bombing the dictator of North Korea. It felt all wrong. Rules are there for a reason, not least because when you are an adult, there are still rules. There are rules in life, jobs, house-shares, relationships, even rules of engagement on the Tube. I may not have liked rules as kid, but I am sure as hell grateful for them now as they have enabled me to stay in decent full time employment for over 25 years and retain a great relationship with my own parents. I also think that things like phones are privileges NOT rights and come with responsibilities (ie rules). We have put parental controls on our DD's phone. Useless. She just jumps on the laptop. We turn off the wifi. Useless. She has found a hotspot at the top of our stairs and jumps on our neighbours' wifi. That is a life without obeying rules and it is appalling, but it doesn't mean we abandon all rules. If we do, i honestly don't think she could survive at uni/the workplace anywhere...

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crispypancakes00 · 27/06/2019 15:22

So sorry to hear about things with your DD Snowball. It sounds so rough. I can relate to some of it. I'm sure your Dh will find that his lack of rules will bite him in the arse eventually. She'll probably respect you more for being the parent.

Thank you for all your replies. PregnantOnPurpose, I hope things will turn out like your story.

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lolaflores · 27/06/2019 15:44

Love bombing North Korea...priceless..
My12 year old is like an unpredictable Genghis Khan on crack.
Her and Dh have a mutual appreciation society and I do t get past the dress code on the door.
It hurts so very very much. Yesterday I found her clothes we brought her home from hospital in and I bawled for what had been.
Sometimes when she looks at me, I think, what did I do to you?
The constant arse and incapable of basic manners hurt because I did t raise her that way. At times it's so bad I ask, who treats you like this in this house?
Stoney silence as she knows shes snookered for an answer.
I just want her to give me a hug, but like she means it.
I also second a pp who isn't going on holiday because of arsey teens. When we got home last year having spent 7 days dragging the black cloud of misery behind us. Trying to find interesting things. Trying to raise anything like enthusiasm, bending over in effort to get her to interact; I swore never again. The money we spent would be more useful in our retirement plan.
We r foung away for a few days this year to visit old friends and family of mine. They have kids similar ages so we r going to corral the lot of them in a field. Toss in sandwiches and pop now and again and leave them to it.
I am done.

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ineedtostopbeingsolazy · 27/06/2019 17:37

Do t take it personally! As soon as you realise it's not personal even though it may feel like it is, then you'll be able to cope with it a lot better.

It can be difficult when the dc get to this age as they go from needing you to do everything for them and you being centre of their world to...not.
I just found things to do and interests and I don't need them to talk to me all the time but I'm always there when they want to talk.

@Sn0wball I'm sorry but it sounds as if your dh is more of a problem than your teenager.

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