14 yo DD has very large breasts & very low self esteem/body image

[Milla37]

Hello! Any advice gratefully received....my poor 14 year old daughter has very large breasts, around size 44G. She is so self-conscious about it that she doesn't want to go to a shop to get fitted properly or buy bras - not helped by when she did finally pluck up courage to come with me to get fitted at M&S in Richmond & the lady measured her & then had nothing at all in her size. I've done some "trial & error" ordering for her from Evans - but out of about 5 bras that I ordered for her only 1 fitted, and that wasn't great. She really needs to go somewhere to try some on & get properly fitted, a nice friendly sensitive shop in West or Central London that has a decent stock of very large sizes. Rigby & Peller would be great, but I can't afford to pay £80 for 1 bra, & even they only seem to have a choice of about 4 in that size!!! Any suggestions? She's SO sensitive & easily upset about it all :-( ...Help!

[AnyFucker]

Are you sure a 14yo is a 44 rib cage size ? M+S have a terrible reputation for measuring properly. Have you checked out the bra intervention threads on here for the correct way to measure...it has transformed many MN'ers figures.

[Seeline]

If you can get to a Bravissimo shop they are brilliant. They usually don't even measure you, but know the right size for you. They will also really explain how to work out whether a bra fits you properly or not, so you are more confident of going elsewhere. Many of their bras are expensive, but are worth it. They usually have a good range in stock as well. Once you know her size (I wouldn't rely on the M&S fitting at all) you can use the Bravissimo web site.
M&S measured me as a 42D and the bras in that size didn't fit in any way. Bravissimo measured me as a 36G. The M&S bras in that size do fit me, and I order on line as they rarely have them in the shop.

[Milla37]

I'm a bit skeptical about the 44 measurement actually....I might take a tape measure to her myself later just to check. She is quite overweight at the moment - suffering with some mental health issues so I'm obviously trying to deal with the weight problem with as much sensitivity as I can....

[AnyFucker]

Yep, nothing wrong with M+S bras themselves but the measuring is shocking.

[AnyFucker]

Measure under her boobs around the ribcage and pull the measure tight.

[Milla37]

I've had a look on the Bravissimo website & they don't seem to go higher than a 40" back/under-cup size. I guess I could get her fitted there, but it takes so much courage for her to even get measured that it's horrible when they then say that they don't stock anything in her size - not sure I want to put her through that trauma again at the moment :-(

[TickledOnion]

If M&S measured her as a 44, then she is probably more like a 38 back. Please try bravissimo. They are lovely and will do their best to make her feel comfortable.

[beccajoh]

There's a Bravissimo in Ealing, or Guildford might also be an option. I highly doubt she's a 44G, just that M&S are hopeless at fitting. I wear bras that are a 28/30 back size but M&S would put me in a 36 for reasons I've not yet worked put!

[beccajoh]

Bravissimo bras are more in the £30-35 per bra range. Once you know roughly what her actual size is you can order online from places like Brastop or Figleaves so she can try on at home if she'd feel happier that way.

[Seeline]

Agree - M&S always seem to be 5-6" bigger in their measurements. I am overweight, but still only measure 38" at the moment. I was only a 36" when they measured me as a 42".
As I said BRavissimo don't usually even need a tape measure - they are so helpful and friendly.

[juneau]

John Lewis also have a good bra measuring dept and a large range of sizes and styles. If her breasts are really that big its essential that she's wearing a properly fitting bra or she could get back and shoulder problems as a result.

[motherinferior]

I'd be really surprised if she's much over a 36.

[AnyFucker]

Measure tightly around the rib cage under the boobs (tightly)

Then measure the fullest part of the boobs leaning forward

The difference between the two in inches is the cup size eg. 1" difference is an A, 5" would be a DD, 9" would be a FF

[motherinferior]

This shop is out of your way but I can recommend it.

[CurlyBlueberry]

There used to be a Leia in Richmond which was fab when I was a teenager with large breasts, but it seems to have closed down now

Get her to a Bravissimo. They will have something in her size I am sure, and I would be very surprised if she was above a 40 back anyway.

[Theas18]

M+S measurements WILL BE WRONG!

Unless your DD is genuinely a very large lady she is never a 44 underbust. I wont tell you my size but I ain't small and wear a 36. My friend who is a dress size 22 is a 38K and can get bras from bravissimo though a limited choice.

Please take her to bravissimo. Book ahead, maybe even pop in and tell them the problems she's had and how she's feeling. The fitting will be by a bravissmo busted lady almost certainly and they are just fab at making girls feel comfortable.

My just 15yr has been a bravissimo girl for years. M+S have been increadibly rude to her almost along the " noone has norks that size" but bravissimo have aways been lovely.

Can you tell us her weight /dress size?

[KarlWrenbury]

is she VERY overweight?

[KarlWrenbury]

ah yes, Sorry. I missed your post - even so I agree wiht the others about that back size

[KarlWrenbury]

show her the Freya ones - so pretty

[TheresLotsOfFarmyardAnimals]

They are lovely in bravissimo. I am really self conscience about my tummy and stretch marks etc and I used to wear a strappy top and just roll it down so that they didn't have to see it. I don't care so much now as they put me at ease but was a bright red mess at 14 y.o. in M&S.

[Wafflenose]

Please take her to a Bravissimo. They are lovely.

M&S would have me in a 38. I'm a 32!

[TheTerribleBaroness]

When I was 14 DM had me in 38DDs from M&S. I'm actually a 32. Bravissimo have lovely bras, young and trendy and a properly fitting bra will make her look slimmer anyway.

[AnyFucker]

M+S measured me years ago as 36A.

I am actually a 32DD.

[somedizzywhore1804]

Another voice saying 44 rib cage sounds unlikely and to try bravissimo.

I went from being flat chested at the beginning of year 7, so aged 12, to having 36 GG bosoms at the beginning of year 8. It was really horrible. Because they grew so quickly too they were covered in angry res stretch marks and I hated them. I'd go as far as to say that I hated them for years- all the other girls my age could wear boob tubes and slippy summer dresses and I was humping around 2 stone of horrible tit on my chest

I'm now 17 years on and a 38 HH so the good news is that they didn't grow much more. I also in the five years between acquiring the beasts and starting sixth form grew about 7 inches in height which helped my body image. It was really hard for me as my boobs are unprecedented- my mum is a 32 AA and my only sister a 32 B... We assume my huge breasts come from my dads adopted family as the women in my mums family are all very slight and short and petite looking. I, on the other hand, am this tall hulk of a woman with massive feet and big breasts! I had to learn to dress myself really but soon discovered that dresses looked much better on me than separates and that no matter how much I wished I could wear strappy tops and jeans, I just can't. It looks bad.

Find a bravissimo shop and get your daughter properly fitted there. Even if you can only afford one great bra for her it will help everything- there's no piece of clothing it won't improve the look of once she's got it on. Maybe suggest getting her some new clothes for new figure as a present for her birthday or something? Again, if she's got a few nice pieces to wear she will feel so much better.

And as hard as it is for her now there will come a time when she will have grown into her new figure, the gentlemen in her life will admire it and her friends will be envious. It's hard being busty at her age but you as a mother can help her confidence.

[Moofins]

I would try and measure her at home first if you can. I went into Bravissimo and was very embarrassed when they told me they didn't go up to my size. They didn't know what to say or suggest and I left feeling awful (Post baby blues). I have found a few good style of bras which I am comfortable in and happy with the size through trial and error (and before I saw the bra intervention threads here). I hate going bra shopping but am happy trawling the internet. Clara Olivia website is good - I like the Caitlyn bras as have side support as well. However I think the style of bra and comfort has much to do with the shape of your boobs as well as anything else, there are lots of balcony bras in larger sizes which don't suit me at all but would probably suit more youthful boobs. For sport support the Elomi Energise is fab.
I really sympathise with your DD this has been a sensitive and upsetting issue for me as well. Thank god for online shops!