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She's gone - and I don't know where she is.

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anorak · 20/04/2006 19:10

Some of you know the history of my relationship with my DD1, aged 16. Given the marvellous support I've received here for the last three years, here's the latest.

She moved out 3 1/2 weeks ago into emergency council housing. She asked me to help her move from her emergency digs into a hostel early this week and to sign as guarantor for her.

There was a mix-up over the time and I was too early. She went mad at me on my mobile and refused to try and make the best of things. Told me the whole thing was f**ed.

I warned her she better talk to me as if I were someone she wanted help from and she said it doesn't matter, her dad would sign as guarantor for her. I put the phone down on her and went home. I haven't heard from her since.

Her dad, who we spent all our savings in court defending her from, who was banned from all contact because of his pornographic businesses and his failure to keep them separate from his relationship with her.

I don't know where she is or whether she has accepted help from him or not. All the friends who know her and me have told me not to capitulate and that I should have been tougher with her long ago. I know she will contact me sooner or later to come and collect the rest of her things.

I'm keeping very busy and keeping my head above water most of the time. But at night when I lie in bed and it's dark, I wonder where she is and if she is safe. The words 'bad mother' go round and round in my head. I'm heartbroken and I'm just waiting for it to mend.

Thank you to all who've walked this journey with me both in person and on this site. x

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alexsmum · 20/04/2006 19:12

oh anorakSad
i don't know what to say.can you contact her dad and ask if he's seen her/heard from her?

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soapbox · 20/04/2006 19:13

Anorak, what a nightmare for you:(

I've no advice for you - mine are still small and relatively trouble free - but wanted you to know someone is listening:)

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deegward · 20/04/2006 19:14

Anorak, the words bad and mother do not sit together with you! I hope I won't regret posting this, but I am sure she will be fine. My thoughts are with you

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anorak · 20/04/2006 19:16

I wouldn't contact her dad - don't even know his numbers any more. I could ring her on her mobile. I just won't. I always capitulate, however rude and unreasonable she is, I always try and make the peace. This time I'm not doing it. All my friends keep telling me she wanted out, let her get on with it and don't keep rushing to help her. She plays on my better nature. But I can't do it any more.

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serenity · 20/04/2006 19:16

I don't really have any constructive experience or advice anorak. I just want to say I don't think you are a bad mother at all. You've dealt admirably with a f'kd up and messy situation, and I know at some point your DD will see this and things will work out. 16 is a remarkably self centered age iirc, and all she can see is how thing revolve around her. All my thoughts are with you and if you'll accept a sympathetic cyber hug, please take one.

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EvesMama · 20/04/2006 19:16

you are NOT a bad mother, but i dont know what to suggest nor can i imagine what you must be going throughSad
can you contact her father? would he be of ny help?

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foxinsocks · 20/04/2006 19:18

Sad

must be very hard but it sounds like your friends are right

she has your number, she knows where you are

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anorak · 20/04/2006 19:20

Exactly, foxinsocks.

Thank you for all your replies. I don't think I am a bad mother, and it helps heaps for you all to say such nice things. But I'm sure you can imagine how these things go round in your head in the night.

I feel I've flogged my guts out trying to understand and protect her and now she's gone, without even a goodbye. Out into the world being selfish and using everyone she meets. Good job? You wonder what the point is.

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tamum · 20/04/2006 19:22

You always come across to me as an utterly fabulous mother, for what that's worth. I'm so sorry.

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desperateSCOUSEwife · 20/04/2006 19:22

anorak for one you are not a bad mother
I remember this from a few yrs ago tbh, was your dd having an eating prob or have I got the wrong person
apologies if i have

your dd is obviously strong willed and trumped up
my dd2 is and was like your dd
thought she knew it all and wanted to be independant etc
her bio dad and I splitting hit her hard
she ran away from home a few times
dh found her in a hostel once because she would of rather stayed there, than here
I can understand that you feel like a bad mother etc but you are not
like me you have probably given your dd everything to be only slapped back in your face

you cant do anymore than what you have done tbh
you can guide them etc but it is up to them whether they listen and take advice etc

Imo your dd will soon come to her senses and realise how much you love and care for her when the
reality of her situation has set in and hits her hard
and she is hungry, needs money, clean clothes etc etc etc
my dd2 just after she came back home met a fella and moved in with him very quickly
even though i am not tooo keen it is between the devil and the deep blue sea iykwim
I really know how you feel as i have been there in a way and want to say that I am thinking of you and if you need a chat or whatever
I will be here to listen
hugs and take care babe
xxx

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anorak · 20/04/2006 19:23

I actually did see her, the day after the row. I was in my local with Christie's husband and another friend and she walked in. She was hoping to get a reference from the landlord, for whom she used to do a washing-up job. He wasn't available. She looked at me and walked out without speaking.

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foxinsocks · 20/04/2006 19:24

my little sister is like this but unfortunately, my parents kept running to her every call and she is now in her late 20s and a complete mess

you are doing the best thing for her by letting her find her own way (and unfortunately, that way is the hardest way for you)

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tigermoth · 20/04/2006 19:26

anorak, I wish I could say something useful and I can't. Your dd knows her dad's phone number, I take it, so could get in touch with him?

I guess at some time she would make contact whatever the circumstances - if he was or wasn't in the pornographic business is not the only issue perhaps? I have very limited experience of this, but have seen a few teenage children show their independence by contacting their absent parent. It doesn't have to mean a switch of loyalty or a loss of common sense, does it?

I don't know if this makes sense, but just wanted you to know I am here.

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anorak · 20/04/2006 19:26

Yes, desperatescousewife, you remember correctly.

It does sound like you know where I'm standing. Thanks.

I only hope her dad will be good to her and not lull her into his world Sad

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anorak · 20/04/2006 19:27

Thank you fox and tigermoth.

Reading what you say makes me feel perhaps I am not going mad after all.

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marthamoo · 20/04/2006 19:28

anorak, I think you've reached the point where you've done everything you can - it's time to let her find her own way and hope - given time - it leads her back to you. She has to make her own bad choices and live with the consequences now. Which is so very, very hard for you to accept - you're her Mum and your every instinct is to look after her and keep her safe.

How can I make you see you are not a bad Mum? Anyone who reads your posts on Mumsnet can see what a wise and compassionate woman you are. You have tried to help your dd, and gone on trying, in the face of so much.

I hope she'll come back to you. I think she will. It will be agony for you - the waiting. But you've done all you can. And she knows you are there for her when she chooses to come back.

She'll find it hard out there on her own - and maybe she'll realise just what she's given up and come back to her family a wiser and more mature person. I hope so. But don't ever blame yourself - you have done everything you can (and then some) and you are so clearly the sort of Mum some people can only wish they had had.

I hope you have some news of or from her soon - just to know she is safe.

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desperateSCOUSEwife · 20/04/2006 19:29

anorak thought it was
and yes i know how you feel
offer will always be there if you ever need it
hugs
xxx

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popsycalindisguise · 20/04/2006 19:31

Anorak - sounds awful. You are being so strong.
Have no words of advice but just wanted to let you know I had read this and am thinking of you.

Popsy x

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Marina · 20/04/2006 19:35

I hope you have news of her basic safety soon, I hope she has not contacted her dad, or if she has, she soon sees him for the slimeball he is anorak.
Sounds like you have friends in RL giving you the wise counsel you need and deserve.
Agree with all on here you are a good mum having a bad time with a teenager pushing things to the limit.

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satine · 20/04/2006 19:57

I can't imagine how hard this must be for you, Anorak, and I have no experience of anything like this (yet - gulp) but I agree with everyone who has said that your dd has to discover for herself that she does need your help and support, and that she doesn't actually know everything. Waiting for her to find that out is going to be very hard, but in the long run I think you'll be doing her a big favour. You sound like a very loving and compassionate mother to me.

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melsy · 20/04/2006 20:02

Thats so spooky , I saw the thread title just now and knew it was you. I have nothing very helpful to say , but I feel for you as you have told me some of whats been going on. Im sorry for the anguish you have at night. Its something I think about in the future, silly I know when dd is 2.7.

I hope she makes contact very soon and you can sort her out.Seems as if your bending over backwards to make it work and shes not meeting you halfway.

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melsy · 20/04/2006 20:05

oh and I know you may hate some of the uSA jargon , but they call it "enabling" dont they , when you do everything they want , so letting her stew for a bit , may help her realise what family is for when shes loneley and scared by what shes doing. Oh Im so sorry, thinking of you xxxx

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PeachyClair · 20/04/2006 20:19

ou're not a bad mother or you wouldn't have fought to keep XP away would you? I ahve a friend whose Dh sounds the image of your Ex and she can't be arsed, so you're definitely up there with the best.

Must be really ahrd for you and I'm thinking of you XXX

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winnie · 20/04/2006 20:35

oh anorak, I haven't read others responses but your post made me cry. You poor thing.

You are not a bad mother!

I am so sad for you.

I know how much you've faught to protect her. You have done all that you can.

My dd is 16 and we have been having a tough time for about 18 months. I live in fear that we are not going to get through this and she will end up moving out. It is interesting that you say that you should have been tougher on your dd. I've been thinking that I should have been tougher on my dd too.

I can understand your heartbreak and despair. I wish there was something I could say that would help. I hope you hear from her soon. Thinking of you both, CAT me if you'd like a 'chat' offline

Winniex

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anorak · 21/04/2006 08:44

Thank you all for your lovely messages. They really do help.

I really really do know that I am a good mother, well I do the best I can, it's just that sometimes I can't feel it. Often it feels as if I have managed to pull off a massive scam, by representing myself to all of you and making myself sound like one. But my own daughter doesn't think I am, so what is it all worth in the end? Sad

I think DD is a confused and angry teen with a lot of unresolved issues inside. I think she manages by blaming most of it on me and DH - we are the safe place to dump on. Everyone needs a safe place to dump on. I do it to DH. But she has done it constantly for three years now and I am worn out. I need her to learn that this kind of safe place is staffed by people and that you have to appreciate the privilege.

They tell me it is common for teenagers to have absolutely no conception of the feelings of others. I must admit I do struggle with this because neither DH nor I can ever remember being so blase with other peoples' pain. We'd have had it knocked out of us immediately. Since we all know this is the wrong approach, I've never known how to get her to see reason. I've talked my head off but it all seemed to go in one ear and out the other.

I can't control her behaviour, I can only control my response. And after three years my response is now to withdraw my support. Foxinsocks and Desperatescousewife seemed to sum it up - it just feels all wrong not to rush to help her. But I know it's the right thing to do. I think. Sad

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