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Dd given spiked drink?

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 11/12/2005 00:21

Dd would be mortified if she knew I was asking this. She is 19, not a heavy or binge drinker. Was out with friends last night. She was brought home in police car by very nice policeman, and was apparently very very drunk. Two of her (male) friends were with policeman and had directed him to our house.
She was almost completely unconscious. Friends said she hadn't had much to drink, had definitely not taken anything else. I confirmed this again later when policeman not in attendance. She swears she hadn't had much to drink.
Spent whole night with her (on advice of policeman). She was sick and completely out of it. Woke this morning in very distressed state as she remembers nothing of what happened after her 3rd drink. She had had two drinks, vodka and lemonade, at 2 different places before 3rd drink in another place.
Male friend had had same drink, vodka and lemonade, they both said it tasted watered down and gave it to others to try. She drank hers, and then remembers nothing afterwards. Found out earlier that this other lad also remembers nothing after his drink, but he had apparently been drinking much more than dd so may well have been "properly" drunk.
Dd "slept" all night (midnight - 8am) apart from bouts of retching/vomiting. On policeman's advice, I tried to rouse her from time to time. She was not coherent and couldn't talk properly, had glazed eyes and couldn't support herself. She woke up this morning feeling absolutely fine - no headache, no hangover - but unbelievably tired. She has slept on and off all day.
She has total trust in her friends (they're old schoolfriends from Year 7). They had collected her jacket from cloakroom, put it on her, and were trying to get her home. She couldn't walk, was a complete dead weight, and I think police came to rescue. She is worried in case "something happened" to her, but I have assured her that her clothes were all intact (she had tights and legwarmers on and they are not the easiest to replace if removed).
She is so upset about not remembering anything - it seems that one minute she was fine and the next, according to friends, she had collapsed. She had eaten dinner before going out.
Does anyone have any medical knowledge or experience about any of this? My dh and I don't know whether we should contact other friends (to dd's embarrassment), to contact club or to contact police (just in case there's something going on that they should be aware of).
Sorry for long post. (Am a regular poster but don't want to be identified, sorry)

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sallyhollyberry · 11/12/2005 00:26

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cranberryjampots · 11/12/2005 00:27

my twin sister used to go out with her friend into town and on at least 2 or 3 occasions came home pretty much as you've described. Twice we had to call an ambulance as she wasnt just drunk clearly. On the last time she went out with her pal she caught her pal's boyfriend trying to put something in her drink

Its never happened since.

Also a friend who's a special constable was out last xmas in town and she had her drink spiked and remembers absolutely nothing at all of the night (she was out with other police/specials). It did really upset her for about a week and she was so distraught that she couldnt go to work.

Sounds very likely in my opinion

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JayzMummysATurkeyStuffer · 11/12/2005 00:30

Dh works with the local police to raise awareness of drink spiking. He thinks she was almost surely spiked last night if she only had three drinks. He suggests that you contact the police just to raise your concerns and they will be aware of any other incidents, if parents/victims have informed them of course.

info on spiking here

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JabberTheRedNoseReindeer · 11/12/2005 00:30

It certainly sounds like it. I think I would let the police know. Your dd was lucky that she has good friends to take care of her, but I'm concerned that someone may be frequenting that club and the next girl won't be as lucky.

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JayzMummysATurkeyStuffer · 11/12/2005 00:32

spiking detectors

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 11/12/2005 00:35

I've never been drunk, and I've never seen anyone close to me like this either, which isn't to say that she wasn't "just drunk" - how can you tell?

Dd feels really embarrassed about it, and doesn't want any "fuss". The whole situation just "isn't her". I don't know whether to insist on talking to her friends myself, rather than relying on her giving me the information from them before I talk to police. Would she have to go in to report it? And do they have CCTV actually in the clubs?

She was with group of very trustworthy (male) friends, so why would anyone else want to spike her drink?

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colditz · 11/12/2005 00:36

sounds like GHB, which is a clear, almost tastless liquid and basically causes drunken symptoms, but leaves very little memory.

deffo sounds like spiking.

clubbers sometimes take this on purpose, lord only knows why.

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colditz · 11/12/2005 00:39

It can make someone very suggestable. Maybe the 'friend' who spiked her drink wasn't part of the pair that brought her home, and misjudged how much he had put in?

Ie he might have been hoping she would merely become compliant, and offer to walk her home.

God it feels so nasty to write this about someone's daughter, sorry, i feel awful suggesting these things.

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 11/12/2005 00:45

Believe me, colditz, I was already wondering if her friends were as innocent as I'm making them out to be. If someone else told me that their dd was the only girl with a group of lads, I'd be suspicious. My other dd, who also knows them all well, is also really upset as she says that there is no way any of them would do this. They've all been mates for years.

None of them ever walk home, they always always get a taxi or a parent.

Do I tell dd that I want to talk to her friends myself?

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Harktheheraldcabewillsing · 11/12/2005 01:38

Sounds like your DD has lovely responsible friends - I have no medical advice I'm afraid but I would definitely tell the police and the club... this is a really scary situation for your DD and you, I wouldn't take it lightly my DP (a policeman) would definitely advise you to contact the police and the club - there may be cc evidence of the drink being spiked... it is VERY serious!

HTH x

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 11/12/2005 01:42

Am dreading the conversation with dd in morning, she isn't going to like what I will have to do (talk to police).

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Harktheheraldcabewillsing · 11/12/2005 01:49

The best thing you can do is be really reassuring to dd - and let her know she'll be helping others if she explains what has happened to her to the police.

BTW - Yes they do have CCTV in the clubs - lets hope a camera was trained on the bar.

Best wishes to you - your dd will just be grateful she's not in 'trouble' and being judged I should think

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 11/12/2005 15:34

Have told dd about putting this on mumsnet, but assured her that it is anonymous (only available to read by the whole world). She seems OK with talking to the police, but I don't think she wants to do it by herself.

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Nightynight · 11/12/2005 15:39

I dont blame her. The whole experience is pretty scary.

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NewBethlehemGirlwithsparkles · 11/12/2005 15:56

This definatley sounds like she's had her drink spiked.

This happened to my dad a couple of years ago. He'd gone out after work to a quiet pub for a quick pint with his business partner and another guy they work with.
After he had finished his drink he was totally out of it, couldn't walk, talk or barely keep conscious.
His partner took him home to my mum straight away. When they got back he was vomiting so my mum took him to A&E.
They confirmed after tests that his drink had been spiked.

It turned out the next day that a really rough looking guy had decided to spark up a conversation with my dad and his collegues and sat next to him at their table.
Obviously my dad doesn't remember any of this but as it turned out some money had gone missing from his wallet.


I think getting back in touch with the pub/club would be a very good idea. I think they would be very co-operative with this too. Maybe even go down and look through cctv videos and see if they can see anything.
You can now get covers for drinks. I know a few pubs where my mum and dad lives do this now.

Hope she's feeling ok now and not too shook up by the experience.

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noddyholder · 11/12/2005 16:05

I think she has had her drink spiked.
It is the same drug that I was given for a quite unplsant medical procedure and when it wore off I was convinced they had knocked me out as I remembered nothingAll the staff were saying how good I had been and followed their instructions and I was oblivious,I went home the same day feeling completely fine just tired so it sounds very similar Poor thing I would look into it further you may save someone else from the same fate if the police look at the cctv

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zippimistletoes · 11/12/2005 16:13

this happened to my dd on her 18th, we had a phone call from her friends who had called anambulance as dd was unconscious in the toilets of a club..she was unrousable and in the ambulance when we got there ..I went to the hospital with her and she was sick and out of it I went off to watch tv and the nurses called me back because they found her behaviour odd..we left about 7.00 am and she slept until about 5.00 pm at home couldn't remember anything except a man buying her a drink..didn't even know she had been to hospital, although she did talk to me before we left there and walked herself to the car etc I had seen her drunk before and she was definitely drugged this time..unless they do a blood test which is quite specific then the drug disappears quite quickly I think. We didn't follow it up, she was lucky that her friends were with her and she collapsed almost straightaway in the toilets before the perpertrator had a chance to do anything.

The lesson learned from this was always reinforce the rule of don't leave friends to fend for themselves and don't be afraid to call an ambulance or friends parents if in doubt, they will not be angry if something has gone badly wronmg.

I felt quite sad as it was exactly 18 years since my last ride in an ambulance also with her as she was unexpectedly born at home and we had to go into hospital after!

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doormat · 11/12/2005 16:41

how awful and for your dd

thankfully she was not in any trouble and was seen home ok

I always advise my 2 dd,s to drink alcopops when out clubbing, and to have their drink with them everywhere they go
even the loo
and to never trust no-one where there drink is concerned

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WickedWinterWitch · 11/12/2005 16:54

Your poor dd, maybe the roofie foundation will be able to help, it could have been rohypnol. I've no experience but have read about it. I agree, you should report it to the police and the club.

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misdee · 11/12/2005 17:02

always have bottles of drink and when holding them keep your thumb over the top. never leave your drinkl unattended.

it does sound very suss to me, and my feeling is she was spiked.

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 12/12/2005 00:58

WWW - I've been reading the "talk" stuff on the Roofie site. It's harrowing reading, and I thank God that my dd hasn't had to go through some of that stuff.

I can't believe that so many other mumsnetters/family/friends have been through it too.

Still haven't contacted police, dd really doesn't want to. She has said that I can ring them to "let them know" what we suspect, and can tell them which club it was, but doesn't want me to give our names. I'm hoping that as she calms down a bit and thinks about it a bit more, she'll see that it's important we get it logged down properly. I don't want anyone else to go through this, but she is feeling pretty bad - she can't deal with the fact that she has no recall of events.

She has spoken to the one of the lads who came home with her (and the police). Apparently, she'd "gone funny" in the club, so they decided to get a cab to drop her home. Another man saw what he assumed to be two other men "dragging" a semi-conscious girl off, and made a fuss. The police must have been around. She is going to talk to the 2nd lad tomorrow (today).

They were all standing at the bar, and she is pretty certain that she was the one buying the drinks! The other friend who had an identical drink to dd's, but had possibly had more to drink in the 1st place, told her today that he hadn't drunk as much as he usually did, but that he felt really strange after having it and couldn't walk properly. He doesn't know how he got home (several miles away).

Dd is getting used to the idea that her drink was spiked, but doesn't want to read anything posted on here yet. It has been an immeasurable support to me, thanks so much to everyone.

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motheroftwoboys · 12/12/2005 13:30

was just reading in our local Metro magazine last week (Newcastle/Gateshead) that there are going to teams of people handing out "spikeys" on our metro system and in pubs and clubs this week - before the Christmas rush. "spikeys" apparently, are a sort of bottle top with a integral straw that makes drink spiking impossible. I didn't take much notice of it at the time but will post if I see anything more. I know there is a HUGE amount of spiking going on in the north east.

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doormat · 12/12/2005 13:31

motb seen these on tv interview with man who invented them
they look very good

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AnonymousWorriedMum · 12/12/2005 18:20

Motheroftwoboys - would be really interested in finding out about these "spikeys". I guess they'd need something else if their drinks are in glasses though (as hers was).

I rang the police today, who were as helpful as they could be given that it wasn't dd who rang. They've said she can make a statement over the phone, and wouldn't have to go in. They wanted to know why I hadn't taken her for a drug test on Friday night - I feel really bad that I didn't now, but had to assume that she was drunk because that's what I was told. Am doing a real guilt trip now because she was in a drug-induced sleep, and I didn't do anything.

They said that it did sound like she'd had her drink spiked, and that it would be great if she could tell them herself as an official complaint, because it could help someone else in her position.

She has had long discussions with one of her female friends, and has decided (hopefully) that she will actually go into the police station with her tomorrow. She said that she'll tell them to ring me up to find out about what happened when she was home! Fingers crossed.

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Nightynight · 12/12/2005 18:33

toddler drinking cup lids
This thread has been quite an eye-opener to me, when I think how we used to go out as teenagers, and the thought of a drink being spiked never crossed our minds.

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